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Yeah, my drafters are a little more pissed when that happens :P Really though? Gravecrawler + Smokestack is not too easy? I cut stack ages ago on the same grounds as skullclamp: even if it is fair, that's just too easy

It's probably my favorite in a long line of cancel variants

I laugh a little because fresh meat is mentioned at the bottom of the previous page. You even explained to me that 4 mana isn't much to hold up because of the eldrazi spawn thing :P

I've never taken the plunge myself, but a good line I heard from I think it was the joy of cubing podcast: It's not the kind of upside it's usually worth butchering your cube for with eratta, but Honestly Birthing Pod plays more like a rebels deck I'd like than rebels probably can.

I dunno, he does say nontoken. Don't you already have fresh meat? I remember you getting all excited about that a while back

Maybe 3? or like 2 and...I dunno, Spider Spawning? They don't count the same cards, but I dunno what else is a good win condition for this deck

For everyone who doesn't want to puzzle this out, loosely it means "the question is wrong" Probably tokens in my book. I don't really like the idea because A) it's WAY too easy to make smokestack good with gravecrawler, and B)if it ever goes right, someone is having a miserable day.

I mean there's lifelink and cycling, but that card is mostly unexpectedly absent.

Mm was basically all poison

Fresh Meat is also nicely held up with a pile of eldrazi tokens onboard, FWIW RE:Caller: No Chord of Calling on Fresh meat? :p Wait, actual upside: Pod my 2 drop, get 4 power. Kinda like Wakedancer, but good.

You know, for Worm Harvest specifically you probably do want mulch over Wayfinder, since the extra lands in hand counts for so much. Honestly if its the cornerstone of a deck, I'd go up to 4 worm harvests, or find something similar (possibly none exist, I'll admit) just so that the drafter can...

Hmmm, he doesn't seem like a good fit for me then. My control decks are way more tapout than drawgo, so I'm not sure he'd help as much :P Maybe it's Azorious Charm time. I've already got geist and venser never really worked for me. Sphinx's might be good, but like AEtherling, it's the kind of...

That sounds awesome. Shadowmoor had the right Idea I think: Consign to Dream

Maybe GAIIV plays better than he looks, because he looks aweful

I resent that implication :P

And here I was, trying to make this old chesnut work: Brain Freeze Vedalken Archmage Retract

I guess I just like green a lot guys... Eternal Witness Vengevine Tel-Jilad Chosen

Spikeshot Goblin off the top, equip grafted wargear, flashback reckless charge. Tap city of brass (going down to 1) for the full 14 points. Also, by golly if it werent for him and stromkirk noble my red 1 drops would basically be 100% rakdos cacklers, and I feel that is slightly unacceptable

OP? hardly. Even vindicate is only "insane" because it can destroy lands. I disklike fetters for gaining life and being 4 mana. 3 is still slow, but 4 can be crippling on a removal spell. I also run double O ring, but I'm not sure I really need to. Any sweet ideas for UW to replace Dsphere...

Honestly Oring is fine if it has no answers. Have you considered just cutting those problem cards laz? :P