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As a bear with a relavant upside in the best aggro color he is just a decent aggro filler in my cube even without madness, which makes him more flexible than those vampires

I think both. Discarding on turn 3 is really important imo with the two madness wurns, hollow one and such.

Deck looks great, would just replace Talrand with Scrap Trawler. I'll draft yours now ... P1P1 was Curse of Chains, removal that keeps me open. After that I saw a Drake Haven and decided to go for this. I followed with Dr. Teeth. Roar of the Wurm made me add green. I love how that deck looks...

I would play both, Fires and Rythm. The fires deck as a real archetype failed in my cube because it was lacking redundancy.

Oh, I'm running Call, great card. Brawn seems a little low impact, especially since most beef the madness deck has access to already comes with trample. That's a good point. I do run Den Protector, but I could increase my recursion in green. Question is, if that's really impactful in an...

When will we get full spoiler? Tomorrow? Or on friday?

Guys, I'm looking for green madness payoffs. Anything aggro would play, that likes to be discarded. Here's what I'm already running. Missing anything? Basking Rootwalla Arrogant Wurm Vengevine Honored Hydra Roar of the Wurm I'd also take Gruul gold cards, if there would be something

Garrison is stronger, the Warboss seems more interesting. I really like mentor.

I really like that Salamandrake. Just a little weird that we get a Simic card with the Simic keyword, but it is actually an izzet card :D

I eduted the post, Ondi! Now drafting shamizy. Really! P1P1 Griselbrand over Garruk. Weht for Reanimator to get these beasties into play and rounded it up with some control tools to not die. I like it! www.cubetutor.com/cubedeck/1041538[/url]"] Ones 1 Enclave Cryptologist 1 Entomb 1 Faithless...

Then I'll draft Ondi's now ... P1P1 Bob into Bloodsoaked Champion. I like some black aggro. Pick 4 is out of black and unexiting so I go with Isamaru. Kari Zev and Sin Prodder make me consider going into red, but I didn't get much more afterwards and only orzhov fixing so I'm staying there...

Wow, I just settled on madness aggro for Gruul, dismissing counters aggro and fires, and suddenly they print a new aggressive counter mechanic and a second Fires of Yavimaya ... I feel like wotc is trolling me. Do I have to go for another dominant Gruul archetype first to get several great...

Drafting dbs' ... Well I wanted to but couldn't find it

It's just a big but boring pile of stats. Also, so much for afterlife numbers fitting the number of creatures represented in the cards ...

The minotaur is already in this slot alongside Bloodrage Brawler and Battlefield Scavenger I'll go with Furyblade then, thanks guys!

Ravenous Bloodseeker VS. Furyblade Vampire I'm looking for another discard outlet for madness. These two however don't seen to be great WITHOUT the synergies. Still, which one of these would be better in a regular aggro deck (or graveyardvdeck like dredge maybe)?

Tell me again how that offalsnout doesn't deserve a new art!

Happy holidays to everyone :)

What do you guys think are the odds for more lifegain matters cards in Orzhov this time around? With the lifelink tokens and some cards like Dawn of Hope in Ravnica 3.1. I was expecting Orzhov to drain for profit aspect, now I am less optimistic though.

I have to say, I am Team Talrand. But I might be biased since I use old Wind Drakes as tokens. Still, almost all non red removal spells I'm running kill both equally easy, and Talrand is also better against pacifism effects. And makes so much more pressure. When you play him alongside a small...