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Grillo, I see what you are saying. Let's suppose a card needs to provide X value to be playable. Let's call X 1.0. If Grisly Salvage put one card into your hand and the rest on the bottom, it would give you value of some amount. Digging for land early and creatures late is kind of exactly what...

Okay, so what you're saying is that we have different floors for what makes a playable card in our environments, and that a cantripping vanilla 2/2 for four mana is already somewhat respectable from a value perspective. Whereas if you have a higher power floor a card needs to reach, you place...

I mean, I agree, but most people weren't running Oracle of Mul Daya and Courser of Kruphix feels like one of the last cards I would cut from my cube. Obviously there are other differences between the cards, but considering the body isn't all that, getting access to the Eidolon engine a turn...

I mean, it's an emotion that's not based in statistics. Unless you have arranged your library somehow, its contents are random and milling a piece is not functionally really different from shuffling it to the bottom. That said I'm reintroducing Regrowth to my format. That Morph Eternal...

I think the Lifegain experiment was a huge learning experiment. I'm fine with failing out in the open. What do you guys think about BFZ's lifegain subtheme?

The problem I have with Eidolon of Blossoms as an engine is that it's a 4-mana card, so you have to hold you aura-based removal for Turn 5 to get value out of it. The body itself is pretty worthless in the same way that Oracle of Mul Daya is. It's kind of awkward to be having such a narrow card...

Oh, misread #3 this week. I didn't realize it was creatures only. I'm dumb?

I mean, in an ideal scenario these types of cards are cast on Turn 3 or 4 in tandem with a Delve spell. Turn 3 Grisly Salvage + Hooting Mandrills is not an embarrassing turn, and you'll have games where digging for your third land or digging for your finisher are amazing. There may also be a...

Wasn't this mostly a Riplab contraption and not a WOTC thing?

I mean, it's kind of like the Yang to Mana Leak in a way. It hits small spells all game long, but has a weakness to big spells.

Everybody's cool. We're cool. Let's assume innocent until proven otherwise. Alfonzo: tell me your thoughts on this guy from your list: Hedron Crab

Thoughts: have you cubed with this build yet? From your description it sounds like it might not have a lot of playtesting behind it. That's totally fine, but it may answer some of your questions, especially regarding if tokens are too much. At a glance that theme doesn't look too over the top...

Don't you need to trigger Primeval Bounty at least 3 times before it's not totally embarrassing?

We've moved our focus to lackluster graveyard themes.

Horribly Awry

Was there a follow-up post on what they did about alternate costs? I can't imagine Evoking Mulldrifter often for :2::u: when the hardcast is :3::u:.

Bump.

Randy Buehler? I hardly know 'er!

Isn't it a black sac outlet at that point?

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