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Humpty_Dumpty · 2025-06-02T18:25:44-0400

Something Phyrexia: All Will Be One did well was to give non-fatal poison relevance through the Corrupted mechanic.

I wonder if you could do something similar with mill. Zendikar Rising tried it with rogues like Soaring Thought-Thief but you could add other cards that play with all graveyards: lhurgoyfs, reanimation, cards that feed on graveyards, and so on.

LadyMapi · 2025-06-02T18:47:18-0400

Chris Taylor said:
Don't get me wrong, psychic spiral is sick but it sure does invalidate everything else that happened that game

Yeah, pretty much.

I'm not completely opposed to having a single card that turns your deck into a mill deck, but I'd kinda want it to manifest as something like Wildfire, where it makes you re-evaluate your draft picks because you suddenly care about something new.

Humpty_Dumpty said:
Something Phyrexia: All Will Be One did well was to give non-fatal poison relevance through the Corrupted mechanic.

I wonder if you could do something similar with mill. Zendikar Rising tried it with rogues like Soaring Thought-Thief but you could add other cards that play with all graveyards: lhurgoyfs, reanimation, cards that feed on graveyards, and so on.

That's definitely a thought.

...

Wait a minute.

This might be the secret wildfire hot sauce. Slip some flexible mill cards into the cube (we're talking Thought Scour and the like), toss in some ways to reset the Exhaust ability, and we might just be off to the races. Heck, Winds of Rebuke is right there.

Nanonox · 2025-06-02T19:09:30-0400

Not reinventing the wheel here, but cards like these work in both mill and selfmill and can get better the harder you lean on them

In a non combo cube you likely won’t be able to abuse these too much, but they do have inevitably. They are also on board so you can interact with them.

Wheels could do work as well if they make sense in your project (Windfall, Wheel of fortune, Memory jar).

spicewitch · 2025-06-02T20:19:35-0400

my experience has been that mill is more fun for the group if both players care about what's milled. so you don't necessarily want thassa's oracle in there as a Gotcha! for the mill player, but including some flashback, delirium, goyfs, recommission (ie, non-blue non-dimir recursion, but ideally of the smaller, less game-ending variety than Breath of Life)

as far as the enablers, i enjoy the ones that mill a bit AND do something else, so that it's a mill deck given the player reaches a critical mass, but otherwise is just a card. a not-very-precise quick scryfalling:

Brad · 2025-06-02T23:38:43-0400

LadyMapi said:
A bit of an odd question for me specifically to be asking, but has anyone here had any success with a mill-to-kill archetype in a relatively normal cube? Aggressively milling villain to death is one of my favorite archetypes, but it has a bit of that Storm problem where most other decks don't want its toys. Other than, you know, self-mill, which is mill-to-kill's worst match-up.

I'm mostly thinking about it because Glacierwood Siege just got printed and I want to stick it in my new, improved Land Grant cube (which I'll actually start building at some point in the next decade when my brain lets me work on projects again, swear on me mum)... but man.

EDIT: Part of me is debating errataing Land Grant to be Arcane, which would open up stuff like Dampen Thought, but my brain isn't currently thinky enough to work out the ramifications of doing that.