This time I managed the title without an akward typo. Things get better.
Okay first: I don't wanna stomp in everything we worked on so far!
Our last thread seemed to dry out a little bit lately, which was probably partly my fault. First, I was busy, but second - more importantly - I felt like we had a great baseline but we were heading towards a good set. Like, a set you enjoy playing for a few weeks until the next on comes out, but which will never be remembered as being something super sepcial. Yeah, I know, it's hard to say something when we barely designed some cards, but I think when we design this thing bottom up and not top down, we could achieve more.
The faction we have already can be kept (although we can cut what we want), they might be changed a little, and we can add more cultures/cities/towns/people to give this even more depth - but without making certain groups the central focus of this set.
Mechanically, we could also rely on what we figured out so far. But if we want this set to be created bottom up, we should figure out keywords and other mechanics as well as draft strategies before we set on all the world building details.
I'm thrwoing out my thoughts to some mechanical things and I wanna hear opinions and ideas!
Cycling
Even if we decide not to do (that many?) 3-colored cards and stuff, I'd still be in for keeping cycling as a general smoothing mechanic for the set. It smoothes out draws and supports all kinds of graveyard/discard strategies. I'd suggest having it a fair amount in every color, with maybe some stronger asfan/focus in
? We could also add for example and distinguish between discard matters (maybe with retrace) in and cycling matters (reduce costs, cards with cycling in yard) in or so.
Tame
We went through so much for this mechanic, let's not cut it now. It allows for interesting designs and gives the whole world of Vakeztan with it's wild nature a nice identity. I would say having it centered in is the best fit, and then there could be ~3 in every other color. To gibe the Khunda Tribes an identity as beast tamers, we could give more "when becomes tapped"-triggers and P>T creatures. Makes also sense to have less wild beasts in and less taming in from a color philosophy point of view.
Equipment/Smithing
Power boosting equipment would be a great fit with the Tame mechanic and I'm still pretty happy with the Smithing mechanic, I designed before. The stoney City of Nipur should still be the home for the latter one, but it seems cooler as place where people became good at crafting weapons than as a guild-like faction. I'd set the mechanic in, which would give that pair something more interesting already than "just aggro". Beyond that I could see a bit of the equipment theme in (maybe more as an artifact theme?).
Retrace
Having two mechanic that tackle discard from a different angle, could be leading to a cool subtheme or two (I still like discard), but it could also be too much? Also, which colors would that mechanic be home in? I think the sultai colors we've been before are a good fit, but I'd also like to see it in so we could maybe create an "instants/sorceries in graveyard matter" theme for .
A Retrace Variant
"You may cast this spell from you graveyard by exiling a card, that shares a cardtype from your graveyard in addition to this spell's other costs." Something like that would work well with cycling and it would feel not that wrong to leave out (mostly), which already has so many potantial mechanics.
Swarm
Onderzeebot's Swarm mechanic is sweet. I'd like to see it in the set, but we'd have to check whioch colors it can go in and also if we keep the Chinri invaders. Maybe focussing on the world/region we're in would be better than introducing it together with an invading party? It would also be another mechanic that has to be in kinda.
I'd say the set could easily support 5-6 mechanics, but we have to keep an eye on the colors. has not much beyond Equipmentsmithing. Cycling, Tame and Smithing are the 3 I'm really hyped for currently. Give me your ideas, guys.
Okay first: I don't wanna stomp in everything we worked on so far!
Our last thread seemed to dry out a little bit lately, which was probably partly my fault. First, I was busy, but second - more importantly - I felt like we had a great baseline but we were heading towards a good set. Like, a set you enjoy playing for a few weeks until the next on comes out, but which will never be remembered as being something super sepcial. Yeah, I know, it's hard to say something when we barely designed some cards, but I think when we design this thing bottom up and not top down, we could achieve more.
The faction we have already can be kept (although we can cut what we want), they might be changed a little, and we can add more cultures/cities/towns/people to give this even more depth - but without making certain groups the central focus of this set.
Mechanically, we could also rely on what we figured out so far. But if we want this set to be created bottom up, we should figure out keywords and other mechanics as well as draft strategies before we set on all the world building details.
I'm thrwoing out my thoughts to some mechanical things and I wanna hear opinions and ideas!
Cycling
Even if we decide not to do (that many?) 3-colored cards and stuff, I'd still be in for keeping cycling as a general smoothing mechanic for the set. It smoothes out draws and supports all kinds of graveyard/discard strategies. I'd suggest having it a fair amount in every color, with maybe some stronger asfan/focus in
? We could also add for example and distinguish between discard matters (maybe with retrace) in and cycling matters (reduce costs, cards with cycling in yard) in or so.Tame
We went through so much for this mechanic, let's not cut it now. It allows for interesting designs and gives the whole world of Vakeztan with it's wild nature a nice identity. I would say having it centered in
is the best fit, and then there could be ~3 in every other color. To gibe the Khunda Tribes an identity as beast tamers, we could give more "when becomes tapped"-triggers and P>T creatures. Makes also sense to have less wild beasts in and less taming in from a color philosophy point of view.Equipment/Smithing
Power boosting equipment would be a great fit with the Tame mechanic and I'm still pretty happy with the Smithing mechanic, I designed before. The stoney City of Nipur should still be the home for the latter one, but it seems cooler as place where people became good at crafting weapons than as a guild-like faction. I'd set the mechanic in
, which would give that pair something more interesting already than "just aggro". Beyond that I could see a bit of the equipment theme in (maybe more as an artifact theme?).Retrace
Having two mechanic that tackle discard from a different angle, could be leading to a cool subtheme or two (I still like
discard), but it could also be too much? Also, which colors would that mechanic be home in? I think the sultai colors we've been before are a good fit, but I'd also like to see it in so we could maybe create an "instants/sorceries in graveyard matter" theme for .A Retrace Variant
"You may cast this spell from you graveyard by exiling a card, that shares a cardtype from your graveyard in addition to this spell's other costs." Something like that would work well with cycling and it would feel not that wrong to leave out
(mostly), which already has so many potantial mechanics.Swarm
Onderzeebot's Swarm mechanic is sweet. I'd like to see it in the set, but we'd have to check whioch colors it can go in and also if we keep the Chinri invaders. Maybe focussing on the world/region we're in would be better than introducing it together with an invading party? It would also be another mechanic that has to be in
kinda.I'd say the set could easily support 5-6 mechanics, but we have to keep an eye on the colors.
has not much beyond Equipmentsmithing. Cycling, Tame and Smithing are the 3 I'm really hyped for currently. Give me your ideas, guys.
