Bruh you don't even run it.
Card/Deck Single Card Spotlight
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I did when my cube was a lower power level!
https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/maa0
It’s too slow for the current iteration of my cube
This is a card I have been avoiding thinking about because it's pretty complicated. It's basically a tutor if your cube is built around redundancy and recursion. At 3 mana and instant speed, it's really tempting!
I'll post a few piles to see what can be done, I'd love for you to share your own + other experiences with the card.
I image a lot of the piles will look like
1. the thing you are tutoring for
2. a similar effect to what you are tutoring for OR a piece of recursion
3. another piece of recursion OR recursion for your recursion
Land tutor
Spell tutor
Cheap creature tutor
Artifact tutor
This artifact one is glacially slow.
Selfmill package
Zombies
Combo
(casting Intuition again for LED + Brain Freeze)
Hit me with your favorite piles!
Life from the loam + Academy Ruins + Engineered Explosives (or Mindslaver !!) is a classic. You could also use Volrath's Stronghold or Hall of Heliod's Generosity for similar loops. Or you can stick in Raven's Crime/Flame Jab for the grind.
LftL is basically great.
Intuition itself also acts as redundancy for Gifts Ungiven, so lots of similar piles there.
LftL is basically great.
Intuition itself also acts as redundancy for Gifts Ungiven, so lots of similar piles there.
Finally able to bring in a cool design I wanted to try out for a while:
There are obvious synergies with Gravecrawlerand cards with Flashback, in addition to cards like Inti, Seneschal of the Sun and Containment Construct which allow for rare card advantage through exile. More ways to trigger the return is always useful and these are becoming more and more common with each new set. But what really got my gears turning was the printing of Gau, Feral Youth.
This is the kind of card that brings further definition to the B/R aggressive archetype and allowing it to further differentiate itself from other blends of Aggro. I've found that when it comes to defining two color pairs for aggressive decks that it's more about showcasing what makes that pairing unique than anything. I have cards that can bleed across the Mardu wedge for most aggressive decks that come together in my cube, but the eternal conundrum is figuring out how to clearly signal a subtheme or play pattern.
Gau lets the recursive B/x creatures clearly cement themselves in Rakdos where you also get big aggressive curve toppers in Falkenrath Aristocrat as well as additional recursive avenues with something like Alesha, Who Laughs at Fate. Take advantage of the expendable bodies with cards like Morbid Opportunist or Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER and throw in some looting effects to fill the grave and there is a lot of depth and resilience to these decks. I see a very nice fleshed out core for these decks nowadays:
There are obvious synergies with Gravecrawlerand cards with Flashback, in addition to cards like Inti, Seneschal of the Sun and Containment Construct which allow for rare card advantage through exile. More ways to trigger the return is always useful and these are becoming more and more common with each new set. But what really got my gears turning was the printing of Gau, Feral Youth.
This is the kind of card that brings further definition to the B/R aggressive archetype and allowing it to further differentiate itself from other blends of Aggro. I've found that when it comes to defining two color pairs for aggressive decks that it's more about showcasing what makes that pairing unique than anything. I have cards that can bleed across the Mardu wedge for most aggressive decks that come together in my cube, but the eternal conundrum is figuring out how to clearly signal a subtheme or play pattern.
Gau lets the recursive B/x creatures clearly cement themselves in Rakdos where you also get big aggressive curve toppers in Falkenrath Aristocrat as well as additional recursive avenues with something like Alesha, Who Laughs at Fate. Take advantage of the expendable bodies with cards like Morbid Opportunist or Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER and throw in some looting effects to fill the grave and there is a lot of depth and resilience to these decks. I see a very nice fleshed out core for these decks nowadays:
I like this idea enough that I'm brain-dumping what I know that you didn't post! I assume you know most of this but heck, I just learned about the [ ci = small ] tag from you, gonna use it.
Individual cards for at least one of the two of Gau and Poxwalkers:
Plus an embarrassment of red two-drops that cast things from exile at some random time:
(Don't sleep on Party Thrasher, it's got a lot of synergy with all kinds of random stuff.)
Entire mechanics, mostly for Poxwalkers, but some for Gau too:
Malevolent Hermit and its Disturb wins the "great mechanic, wrong color" award - there's Covert Cutpurse in black and literally nothing in red - so if you want to bleed into Grixis:
Cards I omitted from the above lists based on power level assumptions - these sure do synergize, but I assume they're, as someone here memorably once posted, "I put Fable of the Mirror-Breaker in to support the token and goblin decks
" situations:
Individual cards for at least one of the two of Gau and Poxwalkers:
Plus an embarrassment of red two-drops that cast things from exile at some random time:
(Don't sleep on Party Thrasher, it's got a lot of synergy with all kinds of random stuff.)
Entire mechanics, mostly for Poxwalkers, but some for Gau too:
Malevolent Hermit and its Disturb wins the "great mechanic, wrong color" award - there's Covert Cutpurse in black and literally nothing in red - so if you want to bleed into Grixis:
Cards I omitted from the above lists based on power level assumptions - these sure do synergize, but I assume they're, as someone here memorably once posted, "I put Fable of the Mirror-Breaker in to support the token and goblin decks
" situations:
Syrix, Carrier of the Flame seems like it slots in perfectly to this archetype.
I have never seen this card before in my life and I really like it - thank you for posting it! Huge fan.
Chris Taylor
Contributor
Cards I omitted from the above lists based on power level assumptions - these sure do synergize, but I assume they're, as someone here memorably once posted, "I put Fable of the Mirror-Breaker in to support the token and goblin decks
I played Samut a TON on Arena when it was in standard. I always wanted this in my opening hand:
Kinda liking the idea of a RG fires deck. Any other payoffs?
It was really fun to drop Samut on T3 and swing with the flipped 2/2 hasty saga guy and draw two cards if they couldn't block.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
What a sweet design!You're forgetting the premier 3 drop for the five color haste deck
This is one of my favourite UB designs, one day or another I will put it into a CubeYou're forgetting the premier 3 drop for the five color haste deck
I want someone to spotlight me a card, that's a transitive verb right? Spotlight me!
Red noncreature spells. Burn, looting, Through the Breach/Sneak Attack... and that's basically all I can think of. The Wildfires of the world are not where I want to be on power level (too low).
Here's my current 450 list!
Just the current red spells:
I could shrug and add Incinerate.
I could pretend to support Calamity of Cinders.
I could add one or two more specifically good attackers for Through the Breach (which is harder than it looks even when I'm supporting Reanimator, and might involve going all the way to the Stifle package because it works well with Corpse Dance).
Might be able to support Legion Extruder but I worry that it tricks people into thinking I have an artifacts theme rather than just clues/food/blood/treasure.
Snort is probably coming in, but maybe I should go straight to Wheel of Fortune?
But, all that said, there's nothing satisfying feeling. I want like, two spells that you would not be ashamed to cast (really as many as five, Chainsaw and Pyretic Charge and Demand Answers don't thrill me either.) Any advice is much appreciated because all I know is "it ain't Jokulhaups even if it makes me sad to admit it".
Red noncreature spells. Burn, looting, Through the Breach/Sneak Attack... and that's basically all I can think of. The Wildfires of the world are not where I want to be on power level (too low).
Here's my current 450 list!
Just the current red spells:
I could shrug and add Incinerate.
I could pretend to support Calamity of Cinders.
I could add one or two more specifically good attackers for Through the Breach (which is harder than it looks even when I'm supporting Reanimator, and might involve going all the way to the Stifle package because it works well with Corpse Dance).
Might be able to support Legion Extruder but I worry that it tricks people into thinking I have an artifacts theme rather than just clues/food/blood/treasure.
Snort is probably coming in, but maybe I should go straight to Wheel of Fortune?
But, all that said, there's nothing satisfying feeling. I want like, two spells that you would not be ashamed to cast (really as many as five, Chainsaw and Pyretic Charge and Demand Answers don't thrill me either.) Any advice is much appreciated because all I know is "it ain't Jokulhaups even if it makes me sad to admit it".
A few suggestions (in order of preference)
Often considered only a combo card, I've found that if your curve is low and you have a GY/discard theme, you can often get value from this. Kind of a Regrowth effect where the ceiling is win the game if you have the combo for it (or a bunch of burn I guess).
Give stuff haste and smash. Utility lands tend to slot easily into decks so you get to virtually increase number of deck slots.
"Draw 3", ramp next turn, create some fodder or anything in between. This is a versatile card that most Red decks can use effectively.
You have some high impact 1-3 drops that it would be a shame to steal, attack with and sacrifice.
Often considered only a combo card, I've found that if your curve is low and you have a GY/discard theme, you can often get value from this. Kind of a Regrowth effect where the ceiling is win the game if you have the combo for it (or a bunch of burn I guess).
Give stuff haste and smash. Utility lands tend to slot easily into decks so you get to virtually increase number of deck slots.
"Draw 3", ramp next turn, create some fodder or anything in between. This is a versatile card that most Red decks can use effectively.
You have some high impact 1-3 drops that it would be a shame to steal, attack with and sacrifice.