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@LadyMapi are you sad there's no Arcane?

These are some very aggressive stats. 3/1 menace for 2 is pretty threatening in a lot of openers.

Zoss, Mapi doesn't need this kind of encouragement!

Our resident Tarkir stan

Theoretically we could start posturing the cardpool towards the ultimate champion by systematically removing their answers. Who will come out on top? True Name Nemesis? Emrakul? Progenitus? Brushwagg?

So many words

Hiep hiep hiep

I don't know if the original is stronger. It depends on if you have additional sources of evasion, otherwise it's tough to connect with a bear.

No, I meant more like the Mordor post where either they both die or the second one doesn't really answer the first.

Busted. :slicin:

Also they're the same color. If you're so deep into black that you're casting a BBBB spell, presumably others at the table will have less equity in black.

How many "incorrect" chain links have there been in this thread? I feel like we should have creeped harder by now.

But then Invoke Despair and the one planeswalker are likely to be in the same deck.

What about a red creature that enters with a +1/+1, but you can remove a +1/+1 counter from it to exile the top card of your library and play it til end of turn.

@James Stevenson I can see them on mobile, so I'm not sure what the issue is exactly.

What is this singleton nonsense :slicin:

Will this creep or is it just an infinite circle?

:btg:

I will say, as much as I'm not super a fan of Upheaval / Armageddon, these cards have led to some super interesting games over the years. When you cast one of these big spells and the game doesn't end immediately, things can get juicy.