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wait none of you are psyched for this thing? tch

After the recent (wide-ranging and detailed) discussion about combo in cube, I've been excited to push a little more combo. Here's some example decklists of a few combo engines that are in the environment. I haven't been drafting lately so they're from cubetutor, but i like to flatter myself...

Some interesting thoughts here! If combo is condensed enough to have a combo turn, as per earlier in the thread, I don't know that you need long-term mana exclusively over burst mana, so eldrazi spawn tokens might even be another choice alongside creature and land ramp. Summoner's Pact starts to...

Angel of Jubilation was always just on the wrong side of playable for me, and this is staggeringly stronger I don't want it over Linvala but I bet a lot of people do.

It's always been surprisingly okay for me, nothing special though. The cool part is that a lot of really cubeable creatures are or have one toughness at some point in their lives (i have 73/360 x/1s or 1/1 token spells) so you can interrupt an opponent's plan, or hit a planeswalker. it's a tempo...

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I play a Thopter Foundry brew in Legacy and can talk about it if you have questions It's a sweet sac outlet, lets you respond proactively to removal, and the cost (unless you're sacrificing Sword of the Meek) is pretty fair. It's a super grindy card but there's really nothing else like it, the...

it's supposed to be Standard-okay stoneforge guys let's not worry too much about what could have been. I'm hoping that with the apparently lower turnaround time on this set they fucked up and gave us COMBAT SNAPCASTER or another eternal witness but it's probably gonna all be fine for standard...

Relic Hunter 1W Creature - Human Soldier Fame 1 (Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, if ~ isn't famous, put a +1/+1 counter on it and it becomes famous.) Whenever Relic Hunter becomes famous, you may search your library for an Equipment card, reveal it, put it into your hand...

You can just loop SDT draws with Locket of Yesterdays out and a third top in the yard, check out Greg Hatch's artificer's intuition deck

I parsed it as 'trans women cosplay magic characters sometimes'

I'm just peeved at how irritating these are gonna be to proxy. Ugh, I hope my crew can pull them all at the prerelease.

Venser, Shaper Savant Oh yeah, forgot about Silumgar Sorcerer! sweet card.

I could write a much, much longer thread on counterspells. It's worth remembering that if you can make a spell fizzle that's just as good. Here's what I like/have liked, and I'll go over what these spells do for environments. 4+ mana: Cryptic Command Venser, Shaper Savant Ojutai's Command...

Okay, I think we can start narrowing this down. Here are some kinds of combo: aggro-combo slow combo-control engine combo and here are some kinds of 'synergy' decks, as we add distinctions: disaster turn (single card pseudocombo like wildfire) n-part cog effect (blood artist loops, Infinite...

Excellent points, thanks. I think you're right, I was overly loose with my examples. A condensed turn is the best predictor of whether or not a deck is comboing off, if I understand you? Seems reasonable as a heuristic but it's probably worth looking at the pace and timing of that turn further...

Loving everyone's posts, this has been way more of a response than I thought this would get! I'd be interested in what you think about my above attempt to get more definite with the idea of a showdown turn. Did I miss something? Probably a lot, honestly. But I still think this is helpful and...

How fast is a 'showdown', anyway? King of the hill showdown turn - land a threat, win if you protect it (jtms, assemble the legion, jeskai ascendancy). Accelerated showdown turn - both players fight with their held interaction, and at the end the dust has settled and somebody's dead. Lab Man...

Quick reply while I'm waiting for a train, I'll add more later. Sorry if I cut off abruptly! i think the "condensed play arena" metaphor for combo is useful here, yeah. Thanks for the feedback! Let's list more examples, as many as we can, and try to refine theory from the data. Blood artist...

really really sweet. What about nonsquare stats for prowess combat tricks? 1/2 sounds fine imo if it has prowess too