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I'm actually super pumped about Goblin Dark-Dwellers. While not hitting counterspells like Snapcaster may suck in modern, I think he compares really well in cube. Also a 4/4 menace is waaay better than a 2/1.

Welp I preordered the stuff I want to test. No wastes cards sadly... I think they would be a good fit for that cube where all the fixing is Filter Lands, though.

As far as the color pie goes, sure. But functionally, its a new color. The manager works exactly like other colored mana. Lands make and of the 5 colors or colorless, a spells cost any of those 6, or generic. So from a design sense, you could potentially treat it as a full 6th color, with 5...

Yeah it wouldn't make much sense to errata every colorless prodicing land in existence to use the new symbol, then use it once. It will take ages before we have the cards to fully support it, though. I may start a thread to discuss the design possibilities of our new 6th color, though

Deceiver of Form looks terrible? I think? Izzet manland looks fine I think I like Eldrazi Obligator. And maybe Vile Redeemer.

The thing I don't get about the <> thing is why they're changing it on lands. All they had to do was add <> in mana costs, and say its has to be paid for with colorless mana. The other half makes it more confusing, if anything/

This. I roughly follow: 1 Mana Instant - 1 damage 1 Mana Sorcery - 2 damage 2 Mana Instant - 2 damage 2 Mana Sorcery - 3 damage 3 Mana Instant - 3 damage 3 Mana Sorcery - 4 damage 4 Mana Instant - 4 damage And use as a baseline for the other removal. I think lightning strike is my last...

I'm gonna give crucible a shot in my cube (running 21 fetches). I just cut all the wastelands, so I'm hoping that makes it fair enough. I want lands to be a deck.

Oh I'm gonna test her for sure, don't get me wrong. And I probably will never run big Elspeth, hate that card. I love the -X on Chandra.

Doesn't count, you have to sac these, so they cant protect her

Anyways, I think I like it

Just 2 plus colorless, not 3, actually.

Awesome for pauper and peasant, yes

Gotten expensive. I have 1 or 2 I've been trying to trade off, but there aren't actually many people looking for them

Also Rumored BG manland BG: 3/3 with 1B regeenarate

Cool but pretty much just a worse Tendo Ice Bridge with no Proliferate interaction

Hey long time to no see! Welcome. I don't like the 2 mana cycle lands, just try doubling on the other ones? How about a landfall theme? Bounce lands are sweet for that, and the theme may work at that power level. Maybe plus a few evolving wilds and undiscovered paradise or something...

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Did the old version of this not work out?

Suring Bolt 2R Instant Surge R (You may cast this spell for its surge cost if you or a teammate has cast another spell this turn.) Surging Bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player. Suring Bolt R Instant Surge 1R (You may cast this spell for its surge cost if you or a teammate has cast...