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I think...I have it. R/G Control Ramp borderland ranger sylvan ranger Savage Twister magmatic insight outpost siege chandra, pyromaster Green value land search weenies ramp, with red X spell based board sweepers, backed up by red card draw? The value land search guys are card advantage...

Yeah threads looks really sweet: powerful but with an interesting condition. Really irksom that its a $15 card. I don't think anyone is saying that fetters is a bad card, just that cube has gotten a lot more efficent, and the 4 life gain dosen't make up for the time spent casting it like it...

@ karl. Exactly. The main reason to run it is that it can hit anything, and the lifegain makes it just efficent enough for someone to put it into a deck; but I dont think fetters has really aged very well. I don't see how overload is going to pass muster.

Its a fine card, but its also slow and clunky; and it makes up for that via lifegain. Overload is just as clunky, but dosen't have the life gain or the same utility to help make up for those weaknesses.

Overload seems really bad; fetters is already kind of marginal I feel, and this version has none of the incentives of shutting off all activated abilities of the card or life gain.

Also avalanche riders My vote would be for hellrider.

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It should be be fine with artifact-in-a-can guys. At lower/mid power you can run splicers, and you also have the option to double up on pia/whirler, with possible support from hangerback walker and maybe master's call.

Chris and I have had this discussion before, and are clearly in disagreement, but I just want to say that I love delver of secrets and think its amazing. Its a suspend 3/2 flyer for {U}, but if you require that it be an actual 3/2 flyer for {U} you will be disappointed. Every deck should be...

I did a few practice drafts and enjoyed them, but I think there is a stratum of good cards that kind of overshadow the second string cards you are trying to get people to draft and experiment with. When you look at the list, there is a core of good, efficent, mid-power level cards, and many of...

The list is the same, I'm just toying around with a redesign, which is laid out here.

Too slow, durdly, expensive, and low impact.

The only place you would run it (or spike feeder) would be in a low power format, but even there i think there are less narrow ways to recreate the feeling of a strong late game b/g deck

The problem that I had with wasteland was that the metagame relationship it was supposed to represent was never real: 3 wastelands at 360 is less than 1% of your cube. You just can't really base a "legacy feel" on that. In general, i think people in actual legacy play around wasteland too...

With the current setup I would cut all the signets. I would probably focus on fleshing out some themes for the last color combinations. 2 drops tend to be a pretty safe place to load up on, and its usually a glut of 4 and higher drops that you should be worrying about.

There are some power level fluctuations (grave titan and ninja of the deep hours in the same cube) that you will eventually want to smooth out, and the signets are going to warp the format around their presence into a sort of artifact rampy good stuff format, which you may or may not like...

Ok, making some structural changes. This is kind of a difficult update to describe (great way to start off the update), but I'm trying to better calibrate how I want people to interact with artifacts, adding some lifegain, and refining the black section. out primitive justice rolling...

Yeah, I'm not really sure if the terms I'm using express what I want, but basically I am looking for cards that have already paid for themselves as far as card economy is concerned. This includes traditional cantrip creatures like elvish visionary, but is more expansive and includes cards that...

I'm not sure I would run actual golgari brownscale, I find a lot of dredge cards feel a bit clunky in a lot of decks, and I think you kind of need tortured existence for brownscale to be a good engine. In that instances you are spinning the dredge wheels over and over again to recur some key...

Guys, I'm on a super weird search. I'm looking for creatures with neutral card economy values, by that I mean they either draw a card or take a card upon ETBing. The reason I'm looking for them is that they are great "fodder" creatures that can be tossed away for trades or used to gum up a...