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Hmm, I have to say, I like the idea. A -1/-1 counters would capture of domeaticating well and we could create stronger upsides. I like both version, this and the one we settled on before. I'll let the others decide. Edit: actually, now that I check the cards we created so far as example, the -...

I prefer the way where we say "Turtle Beast" for example, or just find beast art, that fits the flavor, because a supertype is something that leads to high expectations and such, like a lot of cards with that type and maybe a use over more than one set (I mean, there are technically some wild...

You ninja'd me again ... but I agree with everything you said, except I'm not a fan of a supertype for a relatively small mechanic still.

The thing with something like a card supertype is, that it seems really odd and over the top to do it in a faction set where it's only relevant for a small portion of cards. It should then be a world thing, but for that, the mechanic seems far too narrow. I don't love the non-beast clause...

Oh, didn't know that working thing. Well, I think the Melira-case is irrelevant, but the unlimited tapping ... Untamed X (Tap any number of non-beast creatures with total power X or greater: Put a tame counter on this creature. Tame only as a sorcery and if this creature has no tame counter on...

That's a great idea, thanks! We should definitely do this after we got the mechanics and core identities of the factions. The idea of having this faction focus around blacksmith work and equipments seems like shoe-in for me, really neat idea. I like it more than my invaders-thought from...

Okay, first on our Khunda Tribes mechanic. I'm cool with not giving them a downside mechanic, though I'm pretty confident, that echo and cumulative upkeep polled so bad, because they have literally no reason to be on a card. What gives a creature these abilities, especially echo, flavorwise...

I agree with most what you said Ondee, just super busy today. Will reply in full length tomorrow friends.

Sorry for quadruple post, I'm in a developing rage. Here's another example of what could be a nice, flavorful upside with this mechanic's version:. https://mtgcardsmith.com/view/cards_ip/1539738445289258.png?t=651816

Thinking about it, we should maybe consider setting the number for untamed independently from the P/T to some degree. I mean, humans also tame and domesticate animals stronger than them. And you don't have to threaten to kill an animal to tame it, just threatening pain is usually enough. Mean...

Here, I also did a quick proxy to showcase. Considering how wordy this ability is still after all, I think we should settle on this to allow for attached upsides and other abilities.

Okay, maybe let's fix the wedge-mechanic before going to the cards, I was a little too impatient. I'm on board with this, having ten more mono colored cards seems to bring more options anyway. Okay, first, I totally love the design of the veteran falconer, seems like a perfect fit and...

Looks like I am ignoring you haha, stop posting seconds before me! How would you like this guy if we drop it to 4/3 or even 3/3 or 4/2? I would kinda like to keep the vigilance.

Okay, how about that: Whenever ~ attacks, it deals P damage to you, unless it has a tame counter on it

All these version feel flavorful, but kinda akward and wordy for gameplay. What if we focus the flavor more on being hard to control, rather than wild in an aggressive sense? We could just call it domesticating and use domestication counters? You ninja'd me again :p

I thought about the counter problematic too and I really like your idea to solve it, Rowan. How about this wording: Hungry Hippo can't attack or block unless it has a tame counter on it. Tap any number of non-beast creatures with total power 3 or greater: put a tame counter on Hungry Hippo...

That sounds on point to me. Do you like my taming mechanic as it is? I feel like it makes sense when the tame number is related to either power or toughness, not sure which one though

That Swarm Mechanic would fit perfectly into {U}{R}{G}, we would just need to find a new flavor fitting that. ANd for the initial idea of having them be alchemists, I think that would be much better fit for {G}{U}{B} anyway, so I would move that there. I also have a idea how to capture that...

Okay, another suggestion for {B}{G}{W}. This mechanic does not capture the flavour of an animal be mounted, but it shows the giant beasts you need to tame, so they folow your orders. It is a bit like crewing vehicles, but you have to do it only once, like turning a creature monstrous was in...

Great to get so much input! That scroll emchanic sound interesting, but I'm not sure I quite get it. Is it like a sorcery you can cast from exile? Also, I totally love swarm. We could make it the invaders faction actually, question is if it fits flavourfully? Also, I'm not dead set on mount...