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Okay!

In my test games it's been pretty fantastic. Awesome with fetches, one-sided The Abyss in green, still solvable with a simple Doom Blade. Two thumbs up!

If it was worth it every deck in modern would run four. I suspect it's mostly hot air.

What he said.

I'ld rather play 1000 blank white cards than CAH from what I've seen of the latter.

Sweet explanation!

I don't mind, it was a nice review, and having played 2048, I now think I can safely stay away from this until I have a weekend with absolutely nothing to do :)

No, I get that the untappers are your ramp effects, I just wondered if you actually drafted with Retreat to Coralhelm in your cube and found it overwhelming. I mean, if you tested it it's cool (even if you didn't it's still your call), the card just doesn't scream broken to me, and neither does...

Is that from testing or from theorycrafting, because to me it reads like a three-card combo with a fragile piece (the land untapper) and a mediocre payoff (seven mana from turn four onward). It's not bad, but I certainly wouldn't call it too good.

And to red. Frankly, only black isn't entirely in on the love, and they just got new Drana!

Yeah, I was hesitant to do that, but it pretty much reinforced Eric's post. Then again, Riptide, thread derailing since 1900 :P

In my test games it has certainly been beatable. It's also a pw that slots really nicely into control builds. If it proves too op I'm switching back to ub Tezz.

I think the problem with Tinker is it begs for broken plays, but gets a lot less interesting if there aren't any. In powered cubes you can go t2 trade Mox for Wurmcoil, which is fantastic, but things get significantly less exciting the more turns you have to wait to use it and the less powerful...

I... kinda agree, which isn't something I would have expected a year ago either. I'm at an all time low as well, running only liliana of the veil Daretti, scrap savant Garruk wildspeaker Ajani vengeant Ral zarek Ashiok, nightmare weaver Nicol bolas, planeswalker Man... Just seven!

I'm not down with an eight mana Demonic Tutor.

Yeah, deck looks awesome :)

Ribbons of Night is the bee's knees! (Except for the flavor text... Unh...)

I gave up on Tinker. When it's really cool for the caster it's unhealthy for the game imo, plus I want to be able to cube Myr Battlesphere, which is an awesome card, without the fear of having to face it on t3.

All the best red two drops are {r}{r} (save a very few) :/

Control Magic effects and fight effects are pretty good at removing threats though.