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Yeah, these recent styles of cubes have really opened my eyes for lower powered formats with a lot of thought around game play put into them. aura gnarlid Heliod's Pilgrim Temporal isolation I think you mentioned auruas earlier. There's an interesting, in my opinion, overlap between auras as...

you're not in the market for narrow +1/+1 counter themes? :p

reverent hunter throw in this and you've got yourself a theme

It's a conditional big searing blaze?

I think that sounds pretty exciting! We've talked about madness some on this board buto I don't think it's ever found a home. There are some decent red and black discard outlets as well!

Maybe you could look at what kind of threats you have, when the average deck starts to get going and see if you can find suitable answers. Know what questions you have before deciding upon what answers to run, pretty much.

Playing with multiples usually makes people at least make a little sense, and while not all agree to it, at least they've given it a chance in a real game. How come Delver wasn't well received? Also, if people who are building combo decks lost to the aggro stuff, is there things going on in your...

Or even turn two ;) I think that idea sounds really sweet. Are there other crazy 3+ colored symbol costs that could be colourless hybrids as well? edit: Messenger! Which I might cut unless, of course, hybrid makes up for the triple B

Not feast on the falling? :p

Goblin wardriver Now we're thinking with portals

Good point! I also said viable twice, so that's what typing on your cellphone does for you :p I like the point about Gruul possibly having the issue of ending up inbetween fast decks and slow decks. Is there any way to combat that?

I think the issue was that there wasn't really a lot of instant speed burn, so I'm trying out bumping up the number. Might just run 3x incinerate and see what it does, and run act of treason again. Good call on that. There's hellrider and hero of oxid ridge and some stuff in white, but maybe I...

I'll probably just continue not running a double strike theme more than incidentally. The double strike stuff wasn't really anything I was looking to do. What do you think of the aggro tempo stuff in red?

The viability of fairness I think is a really hard and arbitrary thing to measure for its viability. RDW is a strong strategy in classic cube but it's super fair and really linear?

Some quick dirty changes for next draft on tuesday out arc trail act of treason pyroclasm volt charge splatter thug kessig cagebreakers geralf's messenger in lightning strike searing spear firefist striker hordeling outburst hordeling outburst acidic slime dread return

Whatever makes people draft the pair :p I think maybe we can make it a bit more smart but depending on what we're aiming our cubes to be there are certain restraints, and with those maybe having Gruul just be honest face-smashing isn't too bad? Like, we've got some ideas for giving Gruul sub...

Good point on the fencing ace. I recently cut it for size constraints but probably adding it back with another friend when I feel like supporting a double-strike theme is the wrong way? Also, the idea wasn't to run double strike it was just an overlap with the threaten effects and tempo-feel of...

Hm, yeah. This is a relatively new effect, right? But it feels inextricably green, in a way that probably you can run it as a 1G card even with both creature and land-grabbing? Maybe it has to be a sorcery then, but instants are super fun. (If you want to start tinkering with semi-custom cards)

I think Surrak even glues it together. Like, he is considerably better than people make him out to be. Elf, anything with power >1 and t3 surrak is a pretty hefty start and gives green a smarter feel I think than just ramping up to tapping out for a polukranos and passing? Surrak and another 3...

Heliod's Pilgrim plays really really well with cards like temporal isolation, for what it's worth. It is both a pick for the proactive and the reactive player.