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I could see that. But it would be tricky if you have spells payoffs, like prowess creatures or such that want to be on the board before you cast all your spells, because that's the opposite of what you want with ramp spells. I guess these spells ramp twice for stuff like Tolarian Terror.

I like it, but I also think it would ba a bit too strict to have green as anti-artifact-color only

I think you can support both, big ramp and small ramp (I'm not using that term that sounds like twelve-year-olds talking about sex). Have enough ramp that if someone really prioritizes it (mostly drafting mono green) they can be the all-in big version, but not so much that every green deck needs...

I think excluding ramp completely is just a matter of taste. If you don't like the play pattern of ramping, you can leave it out I guess. Stuff like “no one mana ramp cards” on the other hadn, sounds like a reasonable balancing tool. However, there would also be the option to limit the power...

I was ready to skip this set entirely anyway, but then they announced UW versions (digital, but easy to proxy) and brought back madness almost.

Is this the thread where we share neat little cube stories? I just won a crazy cube game against my fiance with Spitting Image. I was {g/u} dredge and I won by making five copies of her Gary – drain for 2, drain for 4, drain for 6, drain for 8, drain for 10. Nice way to end a boardstalled game.

Tireless Provisioner Ramps to Eldrazi and gains life. Thragtusk Arborback Stomper Classic anti-aggro beefers.

It's an occasionals card. I need exciting and interesting, power level is not that important. I have a core that makes up 90% of the draft pool, there my {r/w} card of choice is Heartflame Duelist. Clean, elegant, always useful, indicates boros' spellslinger theme – but the occasionals is where...

I'm team Adventures. Getting an etb that you have to pay for but can do so in installments, love that. You can't blink an Omen creature for value or get a double spell cast. Also, Omens mean more shuffling.

Nah, it can't really whiff. If you hold no 1/2/3 drops, you just don't activate it. So, the failcase is a three mana 2/3, which I can live with. Think I'm gonna try her. I have a copy each of Trenches and Baird to switch in immediately if she's a flop.

Thanks, riptiders, I got everything now I think. For now, I'll go with these four artifacts: Mimic Vat Mesmeric Orb Grafted Skullcap Prototype Portal And then I also figured that the occasionals would be the place to get a sprinkle of eldrazi in my cube: Endbringer Emrakul, the Promised End...

I am also still running all three cards I claimed were slamdunks: Mockingbird Mindwhisker Mind drill assailant Mockingbird and Mindwhisker have been exceeding expectations. Super sweet cards that fit my cube like a glove. The Assailant is also doing good, but I could see replacing it at some...

I have a hard time finding cool colorless occasionals, that actually feel like occasionals. I would like to have 5-6 more, maybe you guys have some suggestions? Some utility lands, a few expensive top end cards, a couple of tricks, some equipments I wouldn't want every draft – but I feel like...

Is Kayla really that big of an offender? It's just one ability and could be understood halfway through.

I would argue that it's more important than usually here, so we can have decks feel meaningfully different

Do we want ten rough pair-archetypes as a guidline? And then intertwine them and trow in all the neat little synergy packages and combos that fit in the space between? If so, what could they be? {W}{U} Tap/untap and vehicles/spacecraft? {U}{B} ? {B}{R} Sacrifice {R}{G} Treasures? {G}{W} Food...

Okay, I want a {r/w} card for my occasionals. Something cool and interesting to spice up a draft every now and then. So please tell me which of these you find the most interesting and cool. Power level is not that much of a concern. velomachus lorehold Sparktrooper Razia's purification Queen...

Fwiw, I think Summon: Good King Mog XII is above what I call lower/mid power personally. It's a 4/4 lifelink flier for two attacks/three blocks, and it leaves behind up to 8/12 worth of stats – with lifelink too. And potentially even more, if you happen to have some large tokens laying around.

I think for mid/lower power level cubes, it is the fourth or fifth most fitting payoff for casting noncreature spells specifically. But it's tough to say how strong it really is imo. The top three are pretty clear to me, although I could see an argument for switching 1 and 2. 1. Seeker of the...

Maybe we should collect even more ideas and come up with a rough archetype structure? Also, I would like green to be the #1 control color :o