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Yeah honestly, wasn't someone pushing for like R/B madness? This seems like one of those cards that actually incentivises you to do that.

I mean this must be a contender for one of the best cards in the set so far, right? In a format like modern or legacy this has to account for a chunk load of damage?

This looks like another nice condender for helping an Orzhov guild identity? Drop this after a champion of the parish into xathrid necromancer. Yum!

Show me what the 40 would look like and the format it fits in!

I honestly don't understand why there's such an opposition to fixing? Is this really actually a problem that's arisen when you've sat down and played and people have complained "dude! you're cube is just all lands and not enough cool cards"?

winged coatl low powered UG removal?

What was the point of the markings? Neat opportunity to then also run some of the brown mana eldrazis.

Goes nice with smokestack and braids, no?

Can someone present an anectode that motivates this discussion, or is it just an intellectual curiosity?

How so?

Can't leave all those cabins vacant!

Still, it IS an icon card!

serra angel air elemental sengir vampire thundering giant craw wurm I've been kind of interested in the, as of writing this post, recent posts highlighting the differences between modern and older creature designs. My understanding of this is that, looking back into magics history...

Cycles through your deck. One card during drawstep, discard 2, then get one from the etb. Plus minus zero, but at least you've churned through the deck a little faster!

*Rattles with the swear jar* What did we say about saying the t-word?

I've been enjoying these history introspective we've been having lately. I played for like a month as a young person during Lorwyn, and then came back during Return to Ravnica, so I'm pretty imbued into the modern relation between spells and creatures and the etb-paradigm. edit: I played red...

It's not a vanilla bear, it has scry on it.

Hey, I was being serious! What a nice way to give a nice bonus for the added cost of the 4cmc wratch. Feel´s like a good strong card, that plays into the 5 cmc wrath policy.

Nice post! Do you have any ideas for what the decks would look like? Like any actual 23's? Maybe we could start with just a RG lands deck, that I know Grillos been looking into. The red filter cards, Rude awakening, Life//Death, Assault, some green midrange fatties? Some green grave pulses, etc...

salvage titan I'm really liking the support cross color for artifacts. I like this card, so it'd be nice if there are enough other black cards for it to be able to have a home. This one combos pretty well with the marionette master! 3 to the face and a 6/4? Sweet deal!