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Maybe reconstructions of the dynamics of older draft formats are easier too pull off when there is no need to met a certain power criteria, and we not building a simulator Ie if we explored merging some multicolor blocks like lorwyn, alara and ravnica, too see how those retail draft formats...

Goblins as a tribe feels like something that can be supported sort of by just going through the alternatives you have for the other themes in red and favoring playable gobilns over some other option. CML's said that he found Humans to work for this reason (there's a buttload of them and they're...

Some people talked about running things like stormkirk noble and threaten effects to get him and other creatures that give bonuses when connecting through, maybe it can be tied togeher with rabblemaster to get him trough as well? I know removal does the job fine, but stealing creatures are fun...

silence the believers sever the bloodline Is there an argument to let both of the cards in? How tight are most cubes on the 4cc black spell slot?

Is it really though? I haven't played with it outside of limited but it was pretty powerful in BNG draft. rakka mar this is sort of a psuedo 5cc (that's been mentioned earlier in the thread) that does pretty much the same thing, but it comes down after purphoros and ogre battledriver.

In regards to the black removal discussion we had earlier, it seems like people liked these cards soul reap tragic slip hero's downfall Hero's downfall is maybe actually murder, but I just think murder is such an unappealing card. What is some other removal you run and how do they fit into...

Unless of course we decide to build a masochist cube were both Thragtusk and Rev are squadron hawked

I played a cube with that card in it once, and that wasn't a very fun cube, so I have a hard time picturing anyones cube getting any better by including that one in it.

CML you are a man of my own taste. I think sphinx rev has sort of turned into what thragtusk was during INN-RNR, at least in the sense that it sort of dictates what decks can exist in the format, because eventually control is going to fire off a huge huge rev and if you can't beat that you...

Swedes (Jonas) spiraling out of control?

What is some examples of strong vs weaker black removal? go for the throat vs silence the Believers?

satyr nyx-smith Has this been mentioned already? Triggers purphoros and battledriver as well as pushing RDW

Was it you who talked about having slower cards that give very very real advantages and value only after connecting? These seem to fit that really well. prophetic flamespeaker This one too maybe?

Although this is probably not a likely way to turn this into something your players are going to like if they're already skeptical; what if we toyed with the idea of squadroning a card like welder or blood artist, but when you draft it you reveal it and skip out on your next pick? This adds some...

That sounds like a cool design space. Is the idea to push multicolor and monocolor with same card?

You actually have a very valid point in that thragtusk isn't going to be played in a as consistently thragtusk-reliant deck as jund midrange or bant control, so maybe the actual times you do get to recur thragtusk it should be seen as something triumphant. I'm not sure at what power level my...

Haha, wow. Writing on the phone is quite something! Yes, if you look at what cards are getting picked last, or get passed to often, maybe those cards could be made more tempting by making them easier to build a deck around. I'm just speculating though, it could just as well be so that your...

I do like the idea of making green card about things dying and filling up the graveyard.

What makes grizzly fate enticing? A nice sort of build around me value card?

Maybe this could be done very per-cube specific? Take some fata on lsst oicks and see if squadroning will make them more valuable picks.