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I guess the value goes up if you're running lands matter stuff like molten vortex

Then what sparks drafters imagination?

That's a pretty good point. This relates a bit to what you've been talking about regarding power bands, I've been thinking about being conscious about negative space. Maybe people will gravitate towards certain decks if I limit certain effects to certain colors of the themes?

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I think ultimately what I'm looking for is a way to promote a format where people draft more focused decks, ie follow certain guidelines I've put in there. I want decks to have more of a game plan than occasional synergy and more of a personality than just a pile of sweet cards.

So this is an issue that has been talked about here a little bit that showed up during the draft I ran today. We had a full 8 man playing my cube sporting the classic double fetch double dual (abu+shock for me). Every single deck was 3 colored except for the winning RDW deck. The issue of rdw...

That is interesting, because I see it as a very go-big deck kind of card. Low-curve decks doesn't sound like those who would want to win through attrition? I can understand that it takes possibly too much work too get it above firebolt level, but maybe it slots better in a GR ramp deck than a RB...

Was that a matter of the card, the format or a lack of resources during the games you played it with? I haven't gotten a chance to play with it but I want to believe there is a fun deck with vortex and loam.

I think it's a pretty cool concept. Like Laz is saying (implying?) it goes pretty well into the land-theme we were talking about earlier? The question is what density of land-fetchers can be run at a regular power level? Does it become too slow? It does seem like a nice angle for the GR midrange...

Some men just want to watch the world have posts like that. Doesn't FTK depend a lot of what else is going on in the cube? I could see where there's so much power and solitaire where it might not really matter as much. In most riptidey cubes it feels very good stuff.

I'd like to put more emphasis on big red as well, so there for sure seems to be a lot of great options.

Yeah. I think you can squeeze about three cards from this on the play? Which is fine! But it's probably really slow. Doesn't matter how many cards you have when your dead.

Delver is a fan favorite over here, so I'll stick to that. I'd run 2x Delver 1x Cloudfin, for the occasional UR/UG aggro deck. hero of oxid ridge vs hellrider Which one gets to stay?

wow that astrolabe was a ride.

I'm convinced. I'm cutting all my one power prowess guys without looking back.

I'm not a fan of it either. Miracle just feels like a very swingy mechanic overall! azorius justiciar Does it give aggro decks some reach or is it just too slow and too durdly?

Snapcaster mage Archaeomancer Raven Familiar Tower Geist stoneforge mystic Phyrexian Delver Most of these are conditional. Tricky game to play!

For me the attraction to Roil was that it presented green a chance to feel kinda controlly. I might be misinterpreting how it plays tough. It feels like a less busted assemble the legion.

Probably, but that card also presents a way more one dimensional play and draft experience.

Isn't that a nice trick to give a format more depth though? Pinpoint things colors are doing and how the could do it in tandem and then put choose card playable on their own that support that intersection.