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I cant remember exactly who mentioned in the skype chat earlier today that he was missing some black controly five-drops, and this seems like a step in the right directions. (along with sidisi)

Oh! What's the first one? Also I will totally use this as a reference in case someone asks me about building a cube with low budget and/or with the bounce lands. Theres a lot going on in this cube, and from what I can tell theres some high levels of substance and depth for being so close to...

my experience so far has been that my fixing is really really good, and that my drafters wanted more glaring build-arounds, so I'll see how it turns out! I mean if it just ends up as pick 15 some drafts in a row I can just cut it again! And if he goes in a crazy 3-0 deck I can put him on a watch...

yeah but probably its just better to go vampiric or enlightened for that instead of going through a bunch of hoops via trinket mage. But trinket mage is still a fun card, see grillos bouncecube.

'fun' :p Speaking of which, has anyone had luck with utlity zur? A friend gave it to me today and it made me wonder. I'm already running some curses and enchantment-based removal, and it fetches enchantment creatures.

Open your eyes in the skies and see,

A bounceland so you can generate tons of mana in grillos bounceland cube!

Isn't it a 5 player format? With the banker?

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In terms of land destruction just a note I was thinking more in terms of ghost quarter and tectonic edge than wasteland. Hatebears might end up just as a W/x sub theme, but I run thalia and imposing sovereign already so it'd feel good to just help that a little bit in a way that might actually...

So a summary of the proposed format in case you TLDR'd that block of text, I think it's like: both players each get an identical stack of cards, both players start at a low level of health points and reset their lives at the end of each turn, each player have access to a separate pile of lands...

Okay okay so in terms of my Tinker package (no ones told me I can't do it yet so..!! And now it's kind of a mini-obsession) this is my sketch at the moment: tinker goblin welder White weenie and Land Destruction I was thinking of some disruption against the lands, esp could help with...

Hm, might have to give up on it. It's not much of a build around without all the power cube mana rocks, and without it being a build around its pretty poisonous

Hm. I was meaning to add some of the colorless eggs, shroud boots, maybe another bonesplitter, expediton map and artifact lands in the utility pile. I dunno if I want a civic wayfinder, but I could totally see targets for it. Or do you feel it's a completely hopeless case?

"Woaah fellah did you brush those teeth this morning? Not for a thousand years you say? Well boy I sure couldn't tell"

I'll have to ponder a bit if I have the space to run a big explicit splicer package, since I'm pretty much in titan land now (especially so if I add frost titan as a blue fattie). I like the idea of sharding sphinx, I had it in an original list that got changed before the first draft because I...

Hm, maybe! Definitely the right choice if I absolutely want to play a life-gaining blocker. I was looking for another four drop, and it happen to fill that slot. I'll have to look for some better option for a four drop though, but I'm thinking of trying out grillos golems with master splicer...

I saw Grillo mention it as well and I agree. It feels like the missing piece in green that makes it an actual Gruul thing. A package of Lightning Greaves, Lightning Mauler, Hammer of Purphoros, Fires of Yavimaya and Surrak sounds really nice. Red gives the quickness whereas Green supplies some...

Wall of reverence was a last minute panic to throw any bone I could to control. It's going to get switched out with a real card as soon as possible :please Didn't know of wisps, nice catch. The difference between 2 mana and 1 mana cantrips is pretty huge. Mind twist is definitely getting the...

It's a discard outlet for reanimator that can also do good in other decks. It's an alright aggro card and a potential control wincon! I like it