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Experimental Frenzy is also fun with Exploration effects. I'm a fan. I should reconsider it for my cube as cards in hand easily become cards in the yard to profit from. Similar to Onyx, there's: Guttersnipe Which doesn't count copies, but is cheap and can end games quickly if left on the board.

Just bumping this question, because I'm still curious to see which guide formats have been the most useful/enjoyable for folks. I really enjoyed using the archetype snapshot format in the past like: Madness Berserkers: Aggressive deck converting Wheel effects to bursts of damage Wild Mongrel...

I just realized how crazy this is with: Become Immense +12/+12! and delve in general: Murderous Cut Dig through Time Magmatic Sinkhole etc

That's what so great about the card. If your format can afford a 6cmc enchantment that doesn't immediately impact the board, it will completely transform a spells deck by itself.

Storm as an actual win-con demands a lot of cube space. Maybe your cube already has many of those components so it would be less disruptive. But routinely firing off a crow storm with >5 copies is going to take some work. That said, this can be inserted into a fairly standard spells matters...

This is what came to mind when I saw that. I love splice

Some easy ways to thread in some minor storm support: Urza's Bauble Mishra's Bauble Rift Bolt Riftwing Cloudskate Greater Gargadon Lava Dart Fireblast Battle Screech Search for Tomorrow Staggershock Ephemerate Frantic Search Gush Mystical Tutor Snap Mox Diamond Chrome Mox Noxious Revival...

Hm...Lich is more interesting as an engine piece to me. I think it has a little more play to it with proper support. It might just be a question of how much real estate you would be willing to alter for the Lich. I'm not sure I would prefer it over Betrayal if Lich is more of a value dude...I...

Havengul Lich is very underrated at lower power levels imo. Extra fun if you have some 5c enablers to reliably cast out of your opponent's yard

What are your favorite examples of guides/intros that people have written for their cubes? I'm in the process of updating my cube guide, and finding that my previous format is not really relevant to my current design goals.

Right. I cast a pretty wide net, because you use some offbeat stuff. You never know when the Stuffy Doll combo deck is the final piece of the puzzle.

Ooze target dump: Devoted Druid Spikeshot Elder Mikaeus, the Lunarch Apprentice Necromancer Yahenni, Undying Partisan Magus of the Balance magus of the Bazaar Magus of the Wheel magus of the Disk Magus of the Bazaar magus of the Will Fiend Artisan Goblin Welder Goblin Engineer Gilded Goose...

There’s a lot of good ones. You could start a thread for these types of creatures. I think safra started a thread for creatures with tap effects, but that’s pretty old and doesn’t cover ones that self-sac and have non-tapping abilities. Or I can throw a list here of my favs when I’m at a computer

I really like Scrap Trawler It helps reinforce things like Trinket Mage, Emry, Lurker of the Loch and Goblin Engineer. Great for recurring baubles and spellbombs. Can snag larger things with Feldon tokens. It does require a reasonable density of artifacts to be useful as an engine, but...

I take it you are moving away from Syr Konrad, the Grim?

Midnight Reaper is a staple for my cube. The fact that it triggers on itself dying gives it a suitable baseline.

I should also say it’s very different than another 6cmc sac payoff: rage thrower.... which can come down and immediately win (or threaten to win) the game for you. Harvester comes down and then you rev up the engine and then you hopefully start to take over the game

My only experience with it was in my toshiro umezawa commander deck which provides no relevant cube data. Being 6cmc it plays out quite a bit different than most sacrifice payoffs. Harvester has a broader application in a control shell that can survive sweepers, which is value that most sac...

I think Just the Wind is easily the most expendable of those you mentioned. Maybe I’ll cut that instead of riverwinder which I agree has always played well for me....way better than you would expect on paper I was really just trying to retain some madness for thematic purposes, but most of them...

Yeah Norn is an awkward card to place. I feel like it’s only at home in a traditional mtgs “power max” setting. Pretty backbreaking in the average riptide cube. I would recommend against running it in most settings