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I mean, the BTP solution would be to turn gold cards into MDFCs. Aether Helix front, Woodland Stream back, that kinda thing.

Is it just me, or does having Ash Barrens in your BLB sound really sweet with Drake Haven? Yeah, sure, they cycle for {1}, but they always cycle you into extra lands.

So, one thing I've noticed is that the "decks not cards" philosophy pushes you towards two conflicting extremes: A) WotC-Style Limited Cube, where you have a bunch of overlapping "themes", with bombs inside those themes that help pull things together. B) Constructed-Style Cube, where you have a...

Mortarpod Stone Haven Outfitter

Yeah, if you want to be normal.

I think it's less of a matter of power and more of a matter of speed. If your format is glacially slow, the Ramos cycle goes from "terrible" to "mediocre". That being said, if you're looking for cute ways to enable Delirium... Ruins of Trokair Svyelunite Temple Ebon Stronghold Dwarven Ruins...

Plague Mare Mirror Mockery

Approach of the Second Sun Unsubstantiate OK, more seriously: Brutal Suppression Knight of the Holy Nimbus Sporeback Troll Shifting Shadow Renegrade Krasis Agoraphobia (EDIT: I decided to shift some stuff around a bit.)

Artificial Evolution shut up i can make a tribal cube work

Velrun, you're talking to blacksmithy here. They have built their cube around that, and also are fully convinced that everyone else should build their cube that way as well. Come on, this is like talking to me and not going "what heinously stupid design restriction have you decided on today?"

Revival is probably the better card, yeah.

I think it's also important to bear in mind that blacksmithy's cube has a super low average mana cost. Given that they also like 3+ color decks, that requires a level of fixing that's closer to Modern/Legacy/Vintage than any limited format I can think of.

Thawing Glacier What are people's thoughts about this one in a cube with land untappers?

Jumping off this discussion... has anyone (other than Brad) built a cube with skewed fixing? In other words, a cube where some 3+ color combinations are easier than others? I think I've brought this up in the past in the context of a "classic Modern" cube, where there's a draw towards building...

I like the idea of Orchard Strider a bit more, honestly. But why not... Krosan Tusker

You also probably run better mana fixing than 90% of the rest of us. :p But yeah, I agree that Lier is way swingier than Kess. She also turns off counterspells entirely, which is kinda lame.

Are your borderless cards generally build-arounds?

It's also arguably the prettiest land in the cycle (I also kinda love the Mountain).

Quest for Renewal Oh, hey, look, it's basically Wilderness Reclamation. ... Looking back over this thread, it feels like this "archetype" is more like Wildfire than anything else — it doesn't necessarily create a new deck, it just transforms one that was already there by giving it an...