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Is it really though? I haven't played with it outside of limited but it was pretty powerful in BNG draft. rakka mar this is sort of a psuedo 5cc (that's been mentioned earlier in the thread) that does pretty much the same thing, but it comes down after purphoros and ogre battledriver.

In regards to the black removal discussion we had earlier, it seems like people liked these cards soul reap tragic slip hero's downfall Hero's downfall is maybe actually murder, but I just think murder is such an unappealing card. What is some other removal you run and how do they fit into...

Unless of course we decide to build a masochist cube were both Thragtusk and Rev are squadron hawked

I played a cube with that card in it once, and that wasn't a very fun cube, so I have a hard time picturing anyones cube getting any better by including that one in it.

CML you are a man of my own taste. I think sphinx rev has sort of turned into what thragtusk was during INN-RNR, at least in the sense that it sort of dictates what decks can exist in the format, because eventually control is going to fire off a huge huge rev and if you can't beat that you...

Swedes (Jonas) spiraling out of control?

What is some examples of strong vs weaker black removal? go for the throat vs silence the Believers?

satyr nyx-smith Has this been mentioned already? Triggers purphoros and battledriver as well as pushing RDW

Was it you who talked about having slower cards that give very very real advantages and value only after connecting? These seem to fit that really well. prophetic flamespeaker This one too maybe?

Although this is probably not a likely way to turn this into something your players are going to like if they're already skeptical; what if we toyed with the idea of squadroning a card like welder or blood artist, but when you draft it you reveal it and skip out on your next pick? This adds some...

That sounds like a cool design space. Is the idea to push multicolor and monocolor with same card?

You actually have a very valid point in that thragtusk isn't going to be played in a as consistently thragtusk-reliant deck as jund midrange or bant control, so maybe the actual times you do get to recur thragtusk it should be seen as something triumphant. I'm not sure at what power level my...

Haha, wow. Writing on the phone is quite something! Yes, if you look at what cards are getting picked last, or get passed to often, maybe those cards could be made more tempting by making them easier to build a deck around. I'm just speculating though, it could just as well be so that your...

I do like the idea of making green card about things dying and filling up the graveyard.

What makes grizzly fate enticing? A nice sort of build around me value card?

Maybe this could be done very per-cube specific? Take some fata on lsst oicks and see if squadroning will make them more valuable picks.

I suppose the question "is it worth duplicating my stormkirl or champion of the parish" depends on whether you support their themes with depth. I'm probably going to end up with a +1/+1 counter theme and human theme as well so I'd rather duplicate those. I think I could double pack cloudfin...

How do you feel about squadroning "weaker" cards like firedrinker satyr?

I like the idea of maybe squadroning goblin welder

Thragtusk seems like that kind of card that is oppressive-ish and gets better or worse depending on the context. Like, if you include Thragtusk, how far do you push reanimator and flicker while still keeping aggro up to speed and feeling like it still a chance? (How fast is aggro, how disruptive?)