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While I've heard this before, it seems it's one of Aesop's fables "The old man and his sons" which would predate both the United States and the Iroquois. Llanowar Tribe looks fun, though. 3 Mana is a lot. Is Elves played in Modern? I remember we used to have aggrocombo elves back in the day.

Yeah these are also good reasons. Trinket text and old wordings also impact the play experience for those who don't play Magic as much or who aren't as knowledgeable about it. It's more text to read, more things to keep in mind and a larger barrier of entry. I'm actually a bit thorn between...

But then we are all in agreement, aren't we? I do think you can make a "discard matters" archetype. But that archetype won't have any actual madness cards on it. It can be a bit like Modern Affinity, that has no Affinity cards but it's a misomer. I'm just saying that cards like Circular Logic...

I can't be the only one who doesn't like certain cards because they are ugly. For example, there are many reasons to run Chromatic Star over Chromatic Sphere. But I don't because the former is ugly: Chromatic Star Gurmag Angler would normally be a clear win for my cube. It ties in with...

I don't know, I would rather have a longer if interesting game than a short game where someone drops an undercosted 4/4 Indestructible and wins the game. It's not like a full game of Magic is long. Are long games really a concern?

That's what I've put in for now! How do you guys like him?

Thanks a lot for the feedback! I really like the inclusion of Phyrexian Altar, it's very smart. I like that the deck seems interactive and will play differently in each game. There are indeed a couple cards that are narrow or unsuported. I've been changing things and those cards you mention...

Graveyard hate that can be maindecked or is generally useful. I would be fine with the card if it didn't flip or if it transformed.

I doubled it up and it comes up naturally on its own. I don't think you need a lot of artifact mana, either, the control is enough to make the card good, I think. I'm looking for a replacement for Nezumi Graverobber because I want to avoid the split cards, if possible: Nezumi Graverobber

As I polish my cube I move beyond archetypes and single cards and more into the structure of the cube myself. One of the flaws I've seen is that my mana curves were too low and had too many 1-drops. There were also some overloads at certain converted mana costs in some colours, like 5 in red...

I drafted your cube but then crashed. I built a very nice UW control list with Tinker/Colossus and a nice stack of counterspells and so on. But what I've noticed is that you have quite a few artifact-based cards but few artifacts. You have to rely on thopter generators to get some of the cards...

I think the main problem with aggro madness is not the aggro part, but the madness. There are an endless amount of enablers and tricks that synergize well with Madness, the issue is there are few cards with the mechanic of which only a handful are good. The removal of damage on the stack and...