I strongly disagree with the notion that Horizons sets have been good for the game as a whole
Can't deny that it's been great for Cube
I wholeheartedly believe that what's good for Cube is good for the game
cube is the best formatYou may present your arguments![]()
I'm starting to think that the main reason why people are so upset about Horizons sets and Universes Beyond is because of the extra costs they can incur for players. I don't think anyone would have a problem with most of these cards and sets existing if it didn't cost them anything monetarily. However, it's annoying for the Tron player who spent $1000 building their deck back in 2013 "needing" to drop an extra $250 on a playset of The One Ring to keep their deck current. For newer players, it's not that big of a deal because decks are still roughly as expensive as they've always been since reprints have driven down the prices of old staples. But if you've been around for a while, you feel the impact of new cards financially because you need the new cards even after you invested in those other cards when they were still super scarce and expensive. I'm pretty sure that's where the "forced rotation" nonsense has come from: even though nothing has changed legality-wise, new options exist that have changed the optimized builds of some decks. Of course, this isn't a problem specific to Horizons sets. I used to play Infect in Modern, but between Fatal Push being printed and the banning of Gitaxian Probe, my deck completely fell off, rending all that time and money I had spent putting it together completely worthless. At least with Horizons, they make cards to upgrade existing decks and try to help fringe archetypes be competitively viable. I think this is why so many dedicated competitive players love these sets, especially Modern Horizons 2, so much: they've helped to make Modern a more interactive and dynamic format instead of a rock-paper-scissors match between a series of linear decks goldfishing at each other.cube is the best format
prioritizing for the best format is just the logical choice
"the health of the game"? "competitive magic"? "alienating people with OP cards and UB"??
ok sure those are cool but if everyone played cube more people would be happy
Well, it is more complicated.I'm starting to think that the main reason why people are so upset about Horizons sets and Universes Beyond is because of the extra costs they can incur for players. I don't think anyone would have a problem with most of these cards and sets existing if it didn't cost them anything monetarily. However, it's annoying for the Tron player who spent $1000 building their deck back in 2013 "needing" to drop an extra $250 on a playset of The One Ring to keep their deck current. For newer players, it's not that big of a deal because decks are still roughly as expensive as they've always been since reprints have driven down the prices of old staples. But if you've been around for a while, you feel the impact of new cards financially because you need the new cards even after you invested in those other cards when they were still super scarce and expensive. I'm pretty sure that's where the "forced rotation" nonsense has come from: even though nothing has changed legality-wise, new options exist that have changed the optimized builds of some decks. Of course, this isn't a problem specific to Horizons sets. I used to play Infect in Modern, but between Fatal Push being printed and the banning of Gitaxian Probe, my deck completely fell off, rending all that time and money I had spent putting it together completely worthless. At least with Horizons, they make cards to upgrade existing decks and try to help fringe archetypes be competitively viable. I think this is why so many dedicated competitive players love these sets, especially Modern Horizons 2, so much: they've helped to make Modern a more interactive and dynamic format instead of a rock-paper-scissors match between a series of linear decks goldfishing at each other.
You seem like the type of person who would really enjoy the game Papers, Please! I just bought the game the other day and I’m having fun with it!I still have to find a better game than what mtg can bring, but I am already a long time out of buying the new sets.
Thank you for the recommendation! I will look at itYou seem like the type of person who would really enjoy the game Papers, Please! I just bought the game the other day and I’m having fun with it!
I agree. I think the game is very fun, but mostly because the artistic portion is so good that the experience as a whole becomes enjoyable. The art style, the music, and the story are all well-done and make the gameplay feel very immersive.Papers, please! is excellent, but for me is more of a thought-provoking example of game-as-art than a fun activity.