Anybody have an idea of how much it would cost to build a 360 card cube (roughly) on MODO?
General Cube Drafting on MODO
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Grillo_Parlante
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With modern decks, I find that the MODO price is usually about half of what the R/L price is, so I would estimate most riptide cubes to be around 1-2k based on the date we were sharing when champion was released.
Okay, I was thinking about building one so that we could generate content (record matches and actually put them on CFB, for example), but I'm not sure the best way to go about it. Take donations? Kickstart it somehow? Bite the bullet and buy it? Sell my paper cube?
Chris Taylor
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How well does the Penny Pincher cube translate into MODO grillo? I'm not too familiar with the differences in price, but my brain remembers some random cards being a million bucks online and pennies in paper because of the weirdness of old set releases on MODO.
If your cube doesn't happen to have any of those anomalies, it'd be a decent candidate
If your cube doesn't happen to have any of those anomalies, it'd be a decent candidate
Grillo_Parlante
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I just added up my proposed white section on MTGO Traders and it runs 53 dollars. That's probably fairly representative for the colored sections? I can't imagine Red costing much, but maybe Blue has some surprises.
Lands will be the most expensive section. Wasteland may get the axe for budget concerns.
Lands will be the most expensive section. Wasteland may get the axe for budget concerns.
It's possible. I'd like to think of it as an RL cube, that could be drafted even when I'm not around.
Just added up the blue section and it's $100+. Probably the most expensive colored section.
Chris Taylor
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Yeah Tectonic Edge is perfectly fine gameplay wise, but it's still quite expensive due to modern.
What's the next step down? Ghost Quarter? Strip Mine? (Probably the next step down in budget, not in gameplay)
What's the next step down? Ghost Quarter? Strip Mine? (Probably the next step down in budget, not in gameplay)
Yo, save yourself some time and use this tool:
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/tools/deck_pricer#online
You may need to paste a list in a couple of segments - my cube came to about $500 not including Wastelands (which i'm sure people could sportingly rule Strip Mines to be)
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/tools/deck_pricer#online
You may need to paste a list in a couple of segments - my cube came to about $500 not including Wastelands (which i'm sure people could sportingly rule Strip Mines to be)
Grillo_Parlante
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If you are doing this as a marketing initiative for the site, I'm not sure how good of an idea it is to start putting sudden budget limits on the cube. You're going to be competing with CF's normal MODO cube content, and the legacy cube's power level is already about the same as yours. You won't have a roster of pro players demoing the list, so the real appeal is going to be the curiosity of seeing a singleton breaking 360 list in action.
Watering down the interactions that were the entire reason to break singleton in the first place (e.g. wasteland) and construct a unique list, seems risky.
Watering down the interactions that were the entire reason to break singleton in the first place (e.g. wasteland) and construct a unique list, seems risky.
Thanks. And holy shit, Liliana costs 93 tickets???
It's more to promote the idea than the site. I think this type of cubing is fun, and most people haven't seen it in action.
No reprints, best walker in Modern and the second-best in Legacy
there's a few individually-pricy cards that make up the lion's share of my Cube, too - a few budget tweaks might make a cheaper, but still great, environmen(on the order of like $200 cheaper)
Looks like about 1300 tics, ~200 of that is for the Wastelands.
But a set of alpha lands runs just 43 tickets. Not bad.
But a set of alpha lands runs just 43 tickets. Not bad.
On a tangent: I've been thinking about the logistics of recording paper Cube sessions. It was prompted again recently by this LoadingReadyRun Conspiracy draft, which called for two mics, three cameras(one wide) and a long table. MiloTheGathering who iirc Lucre plays with (among other Toronto crowd) has a couple of youtube videos of Good Cubes Being Played; the draft-cam he uses in this video is a cool idea (small phone stand?), as is the shakier oblique one-camera setup here. My laptop isn't powerful enough to stream MTGO video so I've thought about this a couple of times; if you have a consistent paper playgroup the expenses might be better-spent on video equipment. My plan is:
omni mic like my Blue Yeti
two cheap hd webcams
field recorder for backup audio
uhhhhh my phone for vox pops? people can use their phone to draftcam and maybe i'd edit it in
Anyone seen videos of paper Cube nights that were a) edited and b) good? I'd want to produce something I'd enjoy watching
omni mic like my Blue Yeti
two cheap hd webcams
field recorder for backup audio
uhhhhh my phone for vox pops? people can use their phone to draftcam and maybe i'd edit it in
Anyone seen videos of paper Cube nights that were a) edited and b) good? I'd want to produce something I'd enjoy watching
Hmmm, I'll check out the LRR video. Can you really discuss your pics that way during drafting?
It's a nice idea, but I can't imagine the execution being as enjoyable as a MODO stream.
Yeah, you lose this (although the two people closest to cameras can show things to them) but instead you get to capture table talk and do interviews more easily. Milo's mono-blue draft video (the first one i linked above) has him leafing through his hand for the camera with draft commentary added in post - but that's definitely an added hassle.
The idea, at least initially, was to bring elements of in-person Cube nights to the crowd who know it as a MTGO thing and show nonsingleton games at the same time.
It's not anything I was going to do soon, but I might try it for the (Limited!) GP in january
I wasn't aware of an option on MODO to make/draft cubes. I might look into getting on MODO then...
That being said, I would love to be able to draft with you guys
That being said, I would love to be able to draft with you guys
Hm... then why not just use Cockatrice or something similar if already using a 3rd party drafter? Saves ~$1000 for the owner at least.
I'm not sure, as I've never used Mtgo, is it THAT much better?
I'm not sure, as I've never used Mtgo, is it THAT much better?
The competition here I think is XMage, which is Java-based and has rules enforcement. I've never been able to get it to work but allegedly it's quite plug-and-play, and I think it has draft functionality.
Chris Taylor
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It has better visibility. I'm not sure the average channelfireball reader would take kindly to Freeware Magic, let alone whoever is the content manager thesedays.