Maybe that's why it's an enchantment? Sounds like a better flavor explanations than WotC's ...
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Maybe that's why it's an enchantment? Sounds like a better flavor explanations than WotC's ...
Thanks for your passionate post, it reminded me why I run the reanimator package. I`ll go with Titanoth Rex and Waker of Waves, the turtle is not splashy enough for me.
I would go with the giant if you already run other adventure cards. Otherwise I think the tanuki is easier to parse, even though the enchantment type is very unexpected.Brings up an interesting question....
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vs. Context: Medium powered cube with a
/ stubborn aggro archetype (that wants to attack with indestructible creatures: example) and a "hidden" 5 Color archetype (where the 5 Color payoffs are servicable on their own, but pop once you get access to all 5 colors).
Definitely Taranika, if that example list is anything to go by.
In all seriousness, the two cards have very different roles. Taranika upgrades your aggro dorks and utility creatures into actual threats, while Kyodai is more interested in protecting a single important permanent.
(Also, compared to the cards you're using as examples for your 5-color archetype, Kyodai is kinda disappointing, since it's literally just a huge flyer. I'd almost say that Paragon of the Amesha or Dragonsoul Knight are better rewards for going 5-color, and neither card is particularly good.)
In all seriousness, the two cards have very different roles. Taranika upgrades your aggro dorks and utility creatures into actual threats, while Kyodai is more interested in protecting a single important permanent.
(Also, compared to the cards you're using as examples for your 5-color archetype, Kyodai is kinda disappointing, since it's literally just a huge flyer. I'd almost say that Paragon of the Amesha or Dragonsoul Knight are better rewards for going 5-color, and neither card is particularly good.)
Context: Medium powered cube with a small reanimator package:
How many of these would you run? And which of these?
I like how these cards are two combo pieces in one (fatty + discard) for the reanimator archetype and are still relevant if you don`t draw into your reanimation.
I'm a little scared of the clock Taranika provides. Kyodai is a bit under statted with a great effect, which I feel is a fair trade off.
but i want big stats and big effect! and low mana cost!
fwiw taranika is cool and a very fast clock, depending on your power level might be too fast, or if you’re me, not enough
fwiw taranika is cool and a very fast clock, depending on your power level might be too fast, or if you’re me, not enough
It's a weird card. I never see anyone talk about it, but it's far too strong for my tastes.
too good for low power, not good enough for max power
I think there is some overlap as Kyodai also enables you to attack with a fragile creature that could not safely do so otherwise. (This is part of theDefinitely Taranika, if that example list is anything to go by.
In all seriousness, the two cards have very different roles. Taranika upgrades your aggro dorks and utility creatures into actual threats, while Kyodai is more interested in protecting a single important permanent.
(Also, compared to the cards you're using as examples for your 5-color archetype, Kyodai is kinda disappointing, since it's literally just a huge flyer. I'd almost say that Paragon of the Amesha or Dragonsoul Knight are better rewards for going 5-color, and neither card is particularly good.)
/ archetype in my cube)Also
vs single .I totally agree that the 5 color activation could be something more interesting than just "become big".
Great insight, thanks. The ceiling of Kyodai eating 2 of your attackers and then swinging back at you for 8 in the air probably feels pretty bad, especially since you can not do much about it on the other side of the table.
Probably going to stick with Taranika, Akroan Veteran as she also sends the clearer signal.
And not as interesting as all the other white three drops for those of us on the knife's edge between the two.
I tested it for four months or so, saw it hit the table maybe once. Honestly, the double pip in the cost was a killer besides its power level and lack of compelling synergy.
Attacking is better than not attacking
I do agree, but I also like cards to be cool. Taranika's art is fine, if a bit basic. I don't get a sense of the character, and there's a lot to read and grok with the ability. It plays much more simply than it reads, which is fine, but makes drafting more complicated.
To wit, here are 3 MV creatures in white that are all about turning sideways that I prefer that would make it into my cube first:
While I'm at it (and because I was looking them up and wanted to share), here are weird, archetype-specific, or obscure three-drop creatures in white that I really like:
I currently only play with Loyal Retainers of the above cards, but Peacekeeper was cut just this last expansion and Preacher a year ago, after having both served in cube for nearly a decade each. Love those cards, and would add them back in if I made the color more supportive of their efforts.
Chris Taylor
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This is big true
One piece of compelling synergy (and the reason I'm running the card) is +1/+1 counters synergizes real well with setting base p/t, so this can be +4/+4 with some cards.
Barbarian Ring is way way better
Onderzeeboot
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I think these are fairly close. Barbarian Ring has a cheaper activation cost and can target anything, but it's harder to turn on, and you can't dodge the life loss when you tap it for mana. FWIW, CubeCobra currently has Barbarian Ring pegged at an ELO of 1274 and a cube inclusion rate (CIR) of 1.72%, whereas Ramunap Ruins is sitting at a lower ELO of 1222, but a higher CIR of 2.35%. Two alternatives with much lower cube inclusion rates, but comparable ELO's, are Shivan Gorge (ELO 1265, CIR 0.52%) and Keldon Megaliths (ELO 1252, CIR 0.64%). All of these fill similar roles. Objectively, Barbarian Ring seems to be the best of the bunch, but not by all that much.
vampire is better, draw is free and triggers on tokens and blink stuff. there are situations you can concoct where bishop is better but they’re very niche in terms of decks that are actually draftable
As someone whose current design goals include catering to beginners, I have a huge appreciation lately for Savannah Lions, Watchwolf, Woolly Thoctar, etc.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Be still my beating heart! I have more love for this card than is reasonable