Card/Deck Bonfire of the Damned
- Thread starter Jason Waddell
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i dont think it would be too good for most cubes
if a color were to be secondary in time-walking which color would it be.
i guess red has final fortune and black has temporal extortion but neither are quite what anyone here is looking for
if a color were to be secondary in time-walking which color would it be.
i guess red has final fortune and black has temporal extortion but neither are quite what anyone here is looking for
The thing about extra turn cards is that they always pay for themselves... unless you're already dead. Tough price to pay.
CML
Contributor
Yeah, the nightmare scenario is that someone just miracles card X and wins the game while obliterating the importance of any decisions that may have come before ...
My main interest in Angels is buffing that kind of control deck, I think I'll try it next week
Temp Mastery is so incredibly bad. I like Time Warp effects but that card is pretty tough to abuse.
My main interest in Angels is buffing that kind of control deck, I think I'll try it next week
Temp Mastery is so incredibly bad. I like Time Warp effects but that card is pretty tough to abuse.
I would play it if it exiled itself.
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This card is good. There are many ways in cube to ensure the miracle cost, at which this card is broken. I'm a fan.
Laz
Developer
This sounds like a discovery with some sort of anecdote to match...
Heh, nothing too exciting, actually. I didn't play with or against the card all evening, but I observed Lucas's good buddy casually miracling Bonfire four times over the course of the evening, and in only one of those instances was his opponent able to scrabble his way back into the game. The other three were utter and complete - and random! - decimations.
Even the pilot admitted it was dumb, and that there was zero play to the card. That was enough to convince me.
Even the pilot admitted it was dumb, and that there was zero play to the card. That was enough to convince me.
Dom Harvey
Contributor
bump
I still like it way more than Entreat.
Still hate it.
Entreat the Angels has more play to it than Bonfire. Three 4/4's isn't the end of the world, and it's often a fun puzzle to figure out how to swarm around a platoon of giant blockers for the final few points of damage.
I don't see how Bonfire is ever fun for anyone.
I don't see how Bonfire is ever fun for anyone.
From a flavor perspective, I REALLY like bonfire. It does two things that I think are very red - burn and randomness (the randomness coming from miracle). If ever there was a red-like ability, it would be miracle. It does what all the "flip a coin" cards tried and failed to do.
But then there is the problem of bonfire just being so damn feel-bad. That it sort of ruins the whole thing. So, I don't know. Yeah, it probably shouldn't be in my cube.
But then there is the problem of bonfire just being so damn feel-bad. That it sort of ruins the whole thing. So, I don't know. Yeah, it probably shouldn't be in my cube.
Dom Harvey
Contributor
Lucas what the fuck is that picture
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Is this a more palatable miracle than Bonfire?
Nah, I tried it, and CML was right - the card is pretty bad. The straight up cost is aboutmore than what the effect is worth, and it's not really worth a deck slot to try and shave a few mana off this fixed effect every now and then.
Would your answer change as a function of X, where X is your density of Brainstorms?
Eh, possibly. I think I'd want two Brainstorms minimum.
Even then, the ceiling is so much lower on this card than on an Entreat.
Even then, the ceiling is so much lower on this card than on an Entreat.
Dom Harvey
Contributor
I really like Temporal Mastery. Time Walk lets you set up some really cool sequences, but it's powerful enough that you should have to work for it.