General Minor Graveyard Support
- Thread starter Jason Waddell
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I ran Impulse until like a week ago when I cut it for Dig through Time (when did I cut dig? why did I hate on a super fun card?). It's a super valid play in 40-card decks, although I did fire it off turn two sometimes (usually to find Jeskai Ascendancy on curve). also it rewards consistent deckbuilding b/c then it's an instant-speed tutor
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Obviously Goyf thrives on attrition so we want to be encouraging that but is the idea to make green more about cool fun beef? Do we run Terravore? I <3 goyf and would be willing to run 2. I also think possibly the compulsive/thirst environment wants to curve into good 4cc reanimation like Dread Return or, uh, maybe Mannequin or Body Snatcher? Seems like it would discourage
-drop mana rocks a lil since they don't always help you curve out, pushing control towards mana dorks (1-3-4) to accel? idk this is wild theorizing but I think it'd be a cool environmental pressure
Like you don't actually need synergy for Compulsive or Thirst to be playable - I have them in my cube as a sorcery/instant matched pair - but when you have that synergy, and you barely need any to pull it off (which rules), they're supercharged. like Thirst is borderline GRBS in Vintage it's so much a function of the environment
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Obviously Goyf thrives on attrition so we want to be encouraging that but is the idea to make green more about cool fun beef? Do we run Terravore? I <3 goyf and would be willing to run 2. I also think possibly the compulsive/thirst environment wants to curve into good 4cc reanimation like Dread Return or, uh, maybe Mannequin or Body Snatcher? Seems like it would discourage
-drop mana rocks a lil since they don't always help you curve out, pushing control towards mana dorks (1-3-4) to accel? idk this is wild theorizing but I think it'd be a cool environmental pressureLike you don't actually need synergy for Compulsive or Thirst to be playable - I have them in my cube as a sorcery/instant matched pair - but when you have that synergy, and you barely need any to pull it off (which rules), they're supercharged. like Thirst is borderline GRBS in Vintage it's so much a function of the environment
Grillo_Parlante
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I'm not really a big thirst for knowledge fan in cube. With a 30 card artifact section at 360 I've had consistency issues with it.
'goyf seems like a good test subject for this experiment: an already good card, that would greatly benefit from an increase in graveyard velocity rates.
'goyf seems like a good test subject for this experiment: an already good card, that would greatly benefit from an increase in graveyard velocity rates.
I cut Thirst for Knowledge a while back for the exact same reasons Grillo mentioned, and because my artifact section is about half the size, but I'm on the Lucas plan of double Compulsive Research. It's fantastic - and we do often curve it into exactly Makeshift Mannequin or Dread Return!
The thing about goyf, and i only recently cut him mind you, is unless you play all proxies you can buy like 3 of the new commander precons for that goyf's store credit value, slot nemesis of mortals into your cube instead, and feel rather smart about the whole exchange...
UNTIL YOUR LGS WONT BUY YOUR LAST GOYF CUZ THEY CANT SELL THE ONE THEY ALREADY HAVE GRRRRRR
UNTIL YOUR LGS WONT BUY YOUR LAST GOYF CUZ THEY CANT SELL THE ONE THEY ALREADY HAVE GRRRRRR
Grillo_Parlante
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Chris Taylor
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I mean you hit your land drop every turn. That sounds great in a control deck, but if green and control decks in your cube aren't really friends, I'd pass
Chris Taylor
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Awwwwwwww
Its a little expensive honestly what if it was like 2G or like we reformatted it to have a lil more value some how?
There are so many that are so close
Grillo_Parlante
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A list of my favorite incidental graveyard tools (power level all over the place):
Looks super sweet as a graveyard enabler + control card, but also looks like it's potentially oppressive versus decks centered around attacking with X/1s (Delver, R/W etc). I've had opponents sideboard into this card against me while playing Delver in Modern and it feels completely unbeatable. Is the same true in Cube? Have you played it in high power Riptide lists, and what's been your experience with it?
Onderzeeboot
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Well, dredge 3 is kind of a liability. Playing a deck with nothing but X-1's also is.
Grillo_Parlante
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Looks super sweet as a graveyard enabler + control card, but also looks like it's potentially oppressive versus decks centered around attacking with X/1s (Delver, R/W etc). I've had opponents sideboard into this card against me while playing Delver in Modern and it feels completely unbeatable. Is the same true in Cube? Have you played it in high power Riptide lists, and what's been your experience with it?
It feels perfectly fine: basically, its runnable if you have a high concentration of x/1s and x/2s in your cube, which most of us arrive at incidentaly because we end up pushing early game spell sequencing. It also helps police token strategies. You should still check your list though before running it.
Its the only graveyard engine that I've found that really works. People tend to be pretty cold to self-mill, unless they see a substantial benefit, and recursive, efficent removal is a substantial benefit. Typically, it will see 6-9 cards to the yard, and that nicely feeds whatever graveyard strategy is going on.
The other card I like as an engine is shambling shell, but that is low power only.
Thanks for the feedback. I've been leaning on including it for a while. I guess I just need to find a slot for it and test it out.