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VincePendrell suggested the Flame Jab for me ;) I haven't tested it, but it seems sweeeeeet.

Hmmm, why do you think it's so lame? It seems pretty good to me, if you can afford the cost. In my cube for instance it would combat favorably with ~82% of all creatures (based on cubetutor search for toughness that didn't take into account token makers, evasion, and variable stat creatures)...

Flame Jab ? It kinda does both the things you were talking about (graveyard / spells matter). What's wrong with Loyal Cathar? I run him in my regular cube with enthusiasm! Unless you're ughing at doubling up on it; too many WW is bad, I agree.

You already said that wise guy. ;P

What about Infernal Tribute? Or is the activation cost too high? The errata is to sacrifice non-token permanents, so it helps fight mana flood too!

Woops, I can't believe I missed addressing this in my earlier reply. My solution to this issue was to aggressively add more dredgers + a Noxious Revival If one were playing Vorapede (although Eric doesn't), I think Golgari Grave-Troll would be a semi equivalent resilient green fatty to...

Theoretically, how many good/playable vampires (for 360 cards in an 8 man) would you want for it to be enough?

THATS SO COOL LOL. I've been considering trying Coastal Piracy to encourage more aggressive blue decks because it makes evasive dorks meaningful, and this is just an upgrade. I also have an artifact push in my cube too!!!!! Bident of Thassa + Grand Architect seems sweet together :D. And they...

In my experience the payoff is that it helps you hit land drops that you can't draw because you're trying to dredge and fill up the graveyard every turn. As long as you support an aggressive dredging for value / graveyard value deck, you don't need to be able do anything with the lands to make...

Pyrokinesis seems great for a free spells theme too :D. I can't believe I hadn't included it before. Even without blue, it's nice with Young Pyromancer and Guttersnipe. Also I guess I didn't answer your question before... I much like Firestorm as a fair card. But my group didn't value it as...

It's definitely powerful... it just depends if your group appreciates/desires the ability I think. In a similar vein, what do yall think of Pyrokinesis?

We agree with you!!!! Our play groups don't :((((((((((((((((((((((((( Agreed. Mogg War Marshall is awesome... this provides multiple body redundancy in red though, if that's what you're looking for. Being a spell is also a slightly different effect, which can be desirable. How is Tradewind...

Yes! I really love Glare of Subdual...but often it went near last in my group, so taking it out was just to make the cube better for my group (instead of better objectively). Since I'm moving soon, I'll consider putting it back in when I find a new group. I've also increased the token density in...

Molten Birth Thoughts on this card? Not for tighter / powered cubes, but it's kinda like a mono colored Lingering Souls on average...except that they dont fly...and the flashback is more expensive...but sometimes it has flashbackback ...back ...back! :D It is obviously very cube dependent...

The sweetest deck I've ever drafted? Ones 1 Elixir of Immortality Twos 2 Young Pyromancer 2 Corpse Hauler 1 Gnawing zombie 1 Ratchet Bomb Threes 2 Academy Raider 1 Dragon Egg Fours 1 Deathgaze Cockatrice 1 Rod of Ruin 1 Trading Post Ones 2 Wring Flesh 2 Shock Twos 1 Doom Blade 2...

I'm not sure either! :) I'm just looking for thoughts and discussion really. I have a hard enough time considering fitting it into my own list, which is bigger and slightly less powerful. If I had to throw something out there (in the dark with no experience with your cube) I'd say Stupor or...

Are you sure of this part? I'm not intimate with the intricacies of your cube, but if black decks have enough disposable recurring creatures, the sacrifice doesn't seem too bad and instant speed 2 for 2 mana provides great velocity in my opinion. I had considered Altar's Reap for my cube in the...

Given that you push your sacrifice theme as far as to include Act of Treason and Mark of Mutiny, have you considered repeatable steal effects like Old Man of the Sea and Preacher to foster more cross color synergy? (Is Simic Manipulator anywhere close to those two?) I guess though they're hard...

wait wait wait how did I miss that you have a Pawn of Ulamog in your list????? how was for you, Hannes? / how has it been for you in general, Jason? seconded :)

Drafted at LGS last Wednesday. A full 8 man, but with mediocre(?) player quality. (In a retail draft I would put myself at 50%+ to 3-0 ... or I'm just full of myself :p). Anyways... some notes: • I tried to draft something fringe for fun / testing, even though I probably should have P1P1...