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I liked it better when I didn't know what tempo was.

Welcome to the forums! There's a long and storied history of why we're so enamoured with fetchlands on this site, but Jason's seminal article on this topic explains it better than any of us can: http://riptidelab.com/forum/threads/channelfireball-learning-from-legacy-part-1.40/

Lol, that's an awesome turn of phrase. I have no idea how it relates to a 2/2 with evasion that leaves behind a body, but it's sweet nonetheless.

This really is the way to go. To me, Wasteland comes at the problem like a bazooka, but sometimes what you want is the surgical scalpel.

Without delving too deeply into the tangle of subjects brought up, I will say that I believe that the good stuff vs synergy problem is one that exists on an entirely different axis than the the wild, greedy manabase vs tight two-colour deck issue. There are good stuff decks that only need two...

Here's another analogy. I got it from my buddy Rhetoric, though, and he's a little... over the top, so you'll have to forgive him if he steps out of bounds. He assured me this was worth passing onto you guys, though. Let's take Vendilion Clique. It's a card beloved by almost everyone on the...

To be clear, I'm not so much interested in the average case scenarios of Wasteland as I am the worst case scenarios. Will Wasteland produce interesting sequencing decisions for both the Hero and Villain some amount of the time? Sure, I have no doubt that it provides good play and counterplay...

I just visited that site now, and legitimately can't tell if those cards are human or robot made.

That might just be me using that pesky 'rhetoric' again. (He's my new best friend, by the way, my ol' pal Rhetoric.) For the record, I think the answer to your question is, in all likelihood, no - because we've seen that Tectonic Edge doesn't carry nearly the same destructive element to gameplay...

...i forgot what thread i was in and legitimately thought that was a RoboRosewater card

I understand the arguments about the supposed rarity of actual mana screw or colour screw occurring, I really do. But, to me, those arguments sound suspiciously like the same ones trotted out by the folks who run the full gamut of power in their cubes, and wave away the non-games produced by...

I think this is a really interesting argument, with a lot in there to unpack. It spurred another thought that's related to your point about opportunity cost, but is more about what environments we can create where running Wasteland is fair game. Basically, there's a correlation between a) the...

Not to pick on you, Chris, but anecdotal evidence like that from yourself and others doesn't mean much without additional context about the skill level of your playgroup (at least, not to me). If I were playing in your cube, for example, you can be sure I'd be using Wastelands almost exclusively...

I try and think really hard about what Sarkhan must've done to alter the timestream, and change Silumgar from a dastardly dragon into the ultimate white weenie.

To be completely unambiguous, it's not the concept of land destruction itself that I'm against. It might surprise some of you to know that I cubed the actual card Stone Rain at one point! (It wasn't very good). I've also been a fairly vocal proponent in favour of a land destruction theme for...

Yeah, I think your format actually resembles Legacy in both the spells and the mana, so Wastelands make a lot more sense here in putting a foot down on needless, unchecked greed. I will say - and this is something I'm just realizing myself, in my own list - that two-colour, no-splash decks are...

I'm on double Arbor Elf, because of the double Utopia Sprawl synergy! ...Yeah, it's dicey, I don't care.

RoboRosewater is on a roll lately