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Yeah, that's a bit of a goofy design. It's presumably in the set as a landfall enabler. You can cast it T1 and not attack until later turns. It would be speedy in a deck with a lot of 1 and 2 drops. If you had a 2 land hand, you could use the land bounce to still cast a 2 mana and a 1 mana...

I was thinking about that, and one solution would be to use side loading inner sleeves for double faced cards. The rest of the cube could still use a more secure type of inner sleeve.

Makes sense - thanks. I hadn't even considered flipping them in sleeves. That actually bothers me less than using helper cards. These cards are appealing enough to have me considering some inner sleeve options now. One could also stick with the inexpensive cards and just buy replacement copies...

Reducing non-games does hold a great deal of appeal. How does double sleeving the cube make these viable for you? I am trying to figure out the connection, but I'm coming up blank.

What's everybody's feeling on double faced cards in general? The ugliness of needing a helper card in the draft is a big downer for me. I do really like the concept of a modal land/spell card, though.

Cube events cost $10 a pop on MTGO. The prizes consist mostly of points to play more events. Your expected value is about 78% of the entry cost with a 50% win rate, and you would need a 63% win rate to play for free indefinitely. In general, good players can spend money more slowly at drafting...

Excluding one color and doing the rest of the combinations is the only way I can think of to get to 6. (edit: without arbitrarily excluding or adding anything assymetrically) You could do that, except give them all the land type of that missing color, similar to Murmuring Bosk. For example, a...

That's pretty irritating! That answers the question of which card I was missing out of the 162 card list.

Did you see that CubeCobra has just released a grid drafting feature that includes a 2 player local mode? Now it's easy to host a grid draft. The host shares their screen and clicks the appropriate rows for Player 2, then sends a link to the deck after the draft. Player 2 goes to that link and...

Many of these reprints tickle my artifact neurons in pleasing ways but wouldn't go so well in a cube. But reprints are always nice. The expected value looks like it will be good enough to make people crack lots of packs for singles, so we should see some nice price reductions. Vengevine and...

This modified 360 card copy of The Elegant Cube's core cards costs about 10 tickets on Magic Online. https://cubecobra.com/cube/overview/mtgobudgetelegant This thread exists to discuss card choices for the cube. Budget MTGO Cube Thread...

Restoration Angel -> Glimmerpoint Stag Shivan Dragon -> Flameblast Dragon I like all of the dragons you mentioned. Flameblast Dragon might be too much of an auto win card, which is why I didn't put it in my list, but I do like its ability help one catch up from behind. Stonecloaker and...

I did a few drafts of this using the custom draft format with 4 sets, 4 packs of 8 spells followed by the land pack. I didn't feel like I was seeing enough cards to get my entire deck built. In the first two drafts, I ended up in Esper colors, and I found myself switching strategies in an...

The control stuff might just be better than the rest. It's hard for me to be objective about that, because I've been deliberately test drafting different types of decks. If you have suggestions for appealing cards that would speak to peoples' more aggressive instincts, fire away. The power...

Changes: Infuriate -> Titan's Strength Frenzied Goblin -> Tuktuk the Explorer Noose Constrictor -> Mother Bear End-Raze Forerunners -> Soul of Zendikar Removed to reduce cube to 190 cards: Niblis of the Urn Turn to Frog Champion of Dusk Tormenting Voice Plummet Meteor Golem As I take a...

Thanks for having a look. I also like the 10 card list better than any 20 card list that I can come up with right now. I'd run a guild card with a bit of extra complexity (hybrid, split, keywords, etc) if the design fit nicely enough into one of the more challenging guilds. Edric could...

Two things makes it pretty easy to get the whole list from a bot. Doing these makes it pretty easy to buy the entire cube in one visit. 1) No cards in the cube that hard to find on MTGO, such as cards exclusive to planeswalker decks. 2) Make a .dek file available that has card version info. This...

Here's a quick run at a possible 20 card gold section. Having two of each guild causes me to select them a little differently. I find Gruul, Selesnya, and Orzhov to be the most difficult. Time Wipe Empyrean Eagle Tomebound Lich Recoil Judith, the Scourge Diva Lightning Skelemental Savage...

Thanks a bunch for the drafts and comments. I swapped the image to the custom wish / untapped land just for the heck of it. Seven was a number I pulled out of nowhere because it was one less than two wilds per player, which creates competition for those lands. Maybe I need more. What number...

Has this been done before? This is what I want in multiples instead of Evolving Wilds.