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Yeah I heard about it in the recent mechanics episode of Lucky Paper Radio, so it's on my mind again. Obviously there's degrees. I don't so much mind running a single cascade card, especially one with reminder text. I don't mind running Esika's Chariot or Grizzly Fate or Ranger Class even...

These are both fine solutions. Anyone else notice they're running 1-2 cards of a given mechanic or are y'all not like me

Cleave is certainly a bit weird. (Understatement of the year) I'm not one to let "this is the only card with mechanic X" stop me from running a card I genuinely enjoy, but on the other hand: I've been fixing WotC design mistakes for years, what's one more?

oh that's real neato

From all of this I figure you're fine efficiency wise at lower values of X So if the idea for Secure is to cast it for x = 8, than maybe these aren't wholly comparable. But like...it's blue. That's just so different Edit: I should clarify, I have no idea if that makes it better or worse...

Or one faerie conclave with 12 +1/+1 counters on it! :D

You may have sold me on this card!

Didn't even link the cardname SMH

I mean yes but still weird :P

This card is an instant? Wow

This sounds like a good idea UNLESS that list ever changes and I think it would be better for the game if that list kinda got bigger. This card (which is a bad idea) exemplifies the problem in microcosm. And yes, "legal in modern" is going to change a lot more often than "evergreen keyword...

Can I interest you in some exploit if the creature is the point, and the actual exploit is icing?

oh 100%, I do like the body better, buuuuut... zombies. Zombies are an issue on a conceptual level. Here's the scryfall query of every nonblack zombie. There's just shy of 70 in all of magic. IF you can make a deck like this work, it's (mostly) mono black or bust. Even to someone like me who can...

Headless Rider Hey look, it's zombie Xathid Necromancer! Who was good, but zombies are harder than humans, so grain of salt. Okay, 2 mana 3/1, and you can tap it to take 2 and draw a card, then get a 4/3 That's solid! Bonus points if you can give it lifelink, both because the body is a good...

I mean, my hope here was that its text box would persist between zones because un rules. And yeah in hindsight that might have been loose

I make no illusion (Allusion?) my Europe/Scandinavia assumption is in any way based in fact FWIW

Also I haven't actually talked about any of these cards yet so lets catch up here: Currently under translation, but here's another drake haven if you want one. I personally think Faith of the Devoted is cooler, but I also haven't played with any of these three. Assuming the 13 permanent text...

So my base assumption for people on these forums is you live in Scandanavia/Europe somewhere unless I specifically know otherwise. Are you Canadian? Like no shade if you just really love Canada, don't live there, and think this is super sweet, it just seems like a funny point to zero in on if...

This TBH Now I certainly have a tendency towards making #2. myself. In a perfect world I'd never need to complete cycles for people

Spider Spawning on [8] Legs Cleave 4B For our international audience, Wilfred Laurier is the lad on our Tenner :P