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That is certainly valid. Like most things, everything in moderation. And I'm of the opinion at this point that there is probably a happy medium for cube that is not singleton but also not running a plethora of mulitples. I don't know where that ideal middle point lies though. And it probably...

I will admit I have a soft spot for the moxen. I feel I need to disclose that before I continue. My thoughts for what it's worth. If the argument is that the moxen are broken/bad because every deck is better with them, I think there are other cards we could exclude on the same grounds...

It's interesting. I completely side with the anti-singleton argument from a theory standpoint, and yet my cube remains singleton. As far as I'm concerned, cube is a custom collection of cards. Period. The resistance of some people to playing multiples is hypocrisy at it's highest level...

I was big on this card when it came out, but in practice it sometimes didn't really all I was hoping it would do. In rare situations, she gets tapped when she ETB and dies to her own ability. I just wasn't digging the variability on her. Not at 6 mana when I could be running so many other...

This card is good. There are many ways in cube to ensure the miracle cost, at which this card is broken. I'm a fan.

Man, I love Lightning Angel. It's really not amazing anymore by today's standards, but that is probably my favorite tricolor card ever.

Two mana removal? Nameless Inversion It's removal and clunky pump spell too. It's an auto include if you also run Haakon.

I think so, yes. But I am not playing it because I don't think white should have access to counter spells. I don't play Mana Tithe either for that reason.

While we are on the subject of Firemane Avenger... I just started reading through the life gain thread. It makes me want to try it. I was not a fan at first, but there is definite appeal now. I know one of my drafters would be all over a life gain deck which is one of the reasons I'm tempted.

Whip is amazing. My cube is slower than most though, so YMMV.

There are pieces we can get in black too for goblins. Mad Auntie, Boggart Harbinger, Fodder Launch, Marsh Flitter, Weirding Shaman, Warren Weirding, wort, boggart auntie, spike jester. My version of goblins is more about swarming and CA. As it has a token sub theme, I think some of it...

The only thing maybe you could try and do is like a 3 for 1 deal or something. Draft goblin king and get two of his minions as part of the package. Sounds messy and hard to balance properly though. I'm open to ideas here. I'd love to get a playable goblin deck in cube that didn't punish you...

Unfortunately. Which is why I've always felt it was a no-go in cube. Maybe if you draft the whole cube each time you could make it work. But my group never has 8 drafters. So this would hurt my drafts if I tried to shove a goblin theme in there.

On a related note.... has anyone ever been able to make Goblins work without it involving rubbish cards that suck without a bunch of Goblins? Because I have always wanted to push that tribe but it seems to be garbage unless you have all of them in your deck.

I try to push more of a token theme with red. So young pyromancer, empty the warrens, siege-gang commander, Purphoros, God of the Forge , Ogre Battledriver, goblin bombardment, stuff that can be sacked and comes back (like Chandra's Phoenix). I also have a small haste theme (reckless charge...

I am also very interested in additional feedback. I love the art on this card (and I love angels), but I don't think it does enough so I'm not running it. If only it had haste. But if guys are having success with it, I would love to hear about it. Because I could make room for it.

Agreed. Add to that the 29.99 price tag and you have a card that won't be in my cube anytime soon.

I haven't tested Thassa extensively but I have found it good in many different decks, not just aggressive ones. Scry is very good and the unblockable ability has a lot of solid targets - plus this card is almost impossible to remove so it represents guaranteed value that only gets better as the...

Really good discussion. I've been distracted by work and other things so haven't had time to post. Whether a card is GRBS or not depends very heavily on the makeup of your cube and the player base. Even cards which are obviously overpowered (like the moxen) I think do not necessarily have to...

Man do I hate the power max mind set. What is the damn point of that anyway? I kept banging my head against a wall arguing against that philosophy, but it was a futile exercise as no one over there is interested in different ideas from my experience (and the few that were either got banned or...