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Honestly, I don't think most cube decks would be able to hit the requirements to make it work. I guess if you somehow end up with the 4C Goodstuff pile with great fixing and get to deploy early without missing a beat, but I don't think a typical 2 color deck or one barely splashing a 3rd color...

Haha, that's fair. Luckily I feel like this set is going to be opened a hell of a lot as people crack for fetches and all these new cards which should drop prices drastically across the board. Add in the million different versions of cards we get nowadays bringing down prices and it's never...

First foil printing! This is one I've been looking forward to for years.

I'd also lean towards no. Decks where I see Ape or Mom usually are still trying to develop the board early to apply pressure through T3 and late game this isn't really all that impactful if you're buying back one of those. Mom might be a different story if you've got a solid board. If the...

Man, I could have been rich if Vegas took bets on this. Fucking called it.

@Onderzeeboot You might actually be a saint. Unfortunately for many of the rest of us, previous interactions on other boards lead to not giving the benefit of the doubt. Many posts read exactly like what people had to wade through over at r/mtgcube for the better part of a year before they got...

This is definitely sweet for lower powered cubes looking to center those reanimation/recursion effects in Orzhov colors but don't want to run the premier reanimation options at a much lower CMC. I like it as a signpost card for the potential archetype.

It just seems way too strong imo. Powerful for sure, I'm just not sure if this is any fun to actually play against. Cheating it into play or ramping into it ahead of schedule seems like an absolute beating. There's just very little downside unless they Swords or Path the token and you're left...

Oh fuck. This does nothing for my cube, but does everything for my Karametra Enchantress deck in EDH. Slots are tough now 6 years in, but this is a staple if I've ever seen one.

Oh wow, this is nice support for U/B reanimator strategies. A recurrable blocker that lets you dig deeper for your reanimation spells and can fill your graveyard up with goodies. What a sweet design.

Whatever man, I just don't give a fuck anymore.

Again, disagree strongly. Not really interested in pursuing this any further as I can see where it's headed.

But that's adding extra qualifiers to fit your definition of high-powered that are atypical. Which people like me, and most cube designers, would not be privy to because we don't design or evaluate along the same parameters. So yeah, in the scenario you're mentioning I can see Venser not...

Yeah, most higher-powered cubes still deploy Venser. That's the whole argument I'm making. It isn't outdated. Maybe in your environment with whatever you're trying to make work in specific, but that's definitely not the case across the board for higher-powered environments.

Yeah, I don't agree at all. If you're talking Constructed where 4 CMC isn't efficient then sure, but I don't think it's applicable to most cubes. Venser is still one of the best blue creatures in cube given the flexibility of what you get at instant speed for 4 mana. The typical 3 CMC bounce...

True, I guess I was thinking more that I'd just be using the treasure to go extra wide and/or fire more burn to the face as the Aggro player. I guess you just hope to keep hitting things that are easily castable with single pips. It's definitely a pushed card with all the extra bells and...

Sure, but boomer junk sounds like stuff that would suck in Cube nowadays compared to current offerings. That doesn't describe Venser, Shaper Savant. If it was just a flash Man-O'-War variant I'd agree, but it can do so much more and definitely holds up nowadays. It's still a great card in 2021...

Agreed. Venser is still the shit with a wider window of interaction both on the stack and on the battlefield along with more synergies with blink cards like Soulherder. Like being able to re-buy the effect an bounce your opponents is actually disgusting, you haven't lived until you've been able...

Oh my god I've been dying for a great red one drop for a while now that doesn't just have a ton of useless text ala Falkenrath Gorger. I LOVE the Dash mechanic and this fits so well. I would have been happy with just the body, maybe a keyword like menace, and the Dash mechanic. This is...

I was planning on cutting Heliod, Sun-Crowned due to a lack of support but having a tiny cast-able Triskelion gives another Walking Ballista finisher option on curve. Plays well in a GW shell with the likes of Evolution Sage for proliferation and stuff like Felidar Retreat to help grow a team...