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You know a card that enjoys it when both people pass the turn doing nothing? Delver of Secrets

Tezzeret, Agent I used to run this guy with pretty minimal support (some mana rocks, no signets, artifact lands in the utility land draft) and he was very powerful when opened in Pack 1. UB Tezzeret 3 - 0'd at least one draft. It's a powerful four-drop and I don't think you need to warp your...

The problem is that for lifegain the only real cards we have are: Ajani's Pridemate Archangel of Thune

Yeah, Scrying Sheets seems pretty cool. Do you run snow lands entirely in lieu of regular basics?

I think there are two main questions: can we make lifegain into a viable and well-designed archetype in a sufficiently powerful (e.g. mine) cube? If so, can cleric stuff (mainly Starlit Sanctum in the utility land draft) be a fun and useful component of said archetype?

If only this card didn't seem really, really awful. They keep printing clerics but no sweet "clerics matters" cards.

I am willing to entertain just adding to the utility land draft. But I would love if I could make some full-blown Cleric thing work because it's so preposterous. Likely overlapping with the lifegain theme being discussed elsewhere on the boards that is giving me weird feelings in my loins.

What if when you drafted one (from say, Utility land draft), you got 3 copies. Could we make this work? Does this support lifegain? Ramp? Are there ways that we can support decks possibly wanting to spend absurd amounts of colorless mana? Go wild with ideas please.

Make a Snow thread?

Things that are clerics and don't suck: This may be the dumbest thread I have ever made. Discuss.

Things that care about clerics:

I wish there were like, one more card that cares about gaining life. Tooo deep? Random cards that are maybe bad: Super deep crazy scientist. Utility draft. Draft one, get three copies: More clerics than you think:

I tried it and it was a huge burden with ETB untapped. People do play Teetering Peaks, but that seems to have much higher impact.

Yeah, this seems like solid reasoning, but it's a bit of a shame, as I love these three cards in particular. :) Frustrating inexperienced players definitely seems like the worse of two evils.

I keep my cube in a trio of fat packs and love it.

I love how petty and vindictive these lyrics are.

Sphinx's Revelation?

ding ding ding

This sounds pretty solid. I hate the sledge too. Although, playing Jitte for "synergy" is mildly laughable. :p I'm excited you're exploring in this direction. I had planned multi-pridemate for a budget cube of mine.