Things that care about clerics:
Card/Deck Cleric Tribal
- Thread starter Jason Waddell
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Things that are clerics and don't suck:
This may be the dumbest thread I have ever made. Discuss.
This may be the dumbest thread I have ever made. Discuss.
I love tribal themes. And clerics are awesome. One guy in my group would orgasm over the idea of a cleric tribal theme in the cube, so I'll entertain this for awhile.
There are a lot more playable clerics than I thought, but the options we have for making clerics matter are pretty bogus (at least based on what you just listed). I'm going to check gatherer real quick and see what else I find.
There are a lot more playable clerics than I thought, but the options we have for making clerics matter are pretty bogus (at least based on what you just listed). I'm going to check gatherer real quick and see what else I find.
I am willing to entertain just adding
to the utility land draft. But I would love if I could make some full-blown Cleric thing work because it's so preposterous. Likely overlapping with the lifegain theme being discussed elsewhere on the boards that is giving me weird feelings in my loins.
to the utility land draft. But I would love if I could make some full-blown Cleric thing work because it's so preposterous. Likely overlapping with the lifegain theme being discussed elsewhere on the boards that is giving me weird feelings in my loins.
Human theme
Human theme is much more doable.
Maybe one day we can make the Cleric theme a reality in cube. For now, I think it needs to live as a super janky casual deck I would probably enjoy trying to build when I get free time.
Human theme is much more doable.
Maybe one day we can make the Cleric theme a reality in cube. For now, I think it needs to live as a super janky casual deck I would probably enjoy trying to build when I get free time.
I don't generally run triple color mana costs, but if we are going all the way with this.
This guy would cost U the turn after you drop Edgewalker. And his B ability would be sweet with undying dudes.
If only this card didn't seem really, really awful. They keep printing clerics but no sweet "clerics matters" cards.
I think there are two main questions: can we make lifegain into a viable and well-designed archetype in a sufficiently powerful (e.g. mine) cube? If so, can cleric stuff (mainly Starlit Sanctum in the utility land draft) be a fun and useful component of said archetype?
I kinda like selfless cathar.
I don't think so. At least not the cleric part.
But even with a lifegain theme, the biggest issue with it is that it doesn't win you the game by itself (you can't gain life your opponent to death). So it really should be a supplemental mechanic. My 2 cents.
The problem is that for lifegain the only real cards we have are:
Actually these cards look really cool. What's good about Cabal Archon and Rotlung Whatever is they have crossover to human and zombie tribal. Starlit Sanctum looks really cool. The way these synergies are looking I don't think Edgewalker is part of the plan yet. It doesn't look to me like the cards are there yet to make this really work, which is cool because there's room to design some of our own. I'm thinking of a 1-drop that grows when you gain life. Firstly because they should exist, and secondly because it's a really direct idea from Champion of the Parish and Carrion Feeder. It's the tribal growing 1-drop. Maybe a 2/1 for 1 that drains them whenever you gain life or something? But then you can't sac it to Cabal Archon and get the bonus. I dunno. Interesting discussion.
This is the third version of this post. I wrote it once saying this whole idea was pointless, then revised it, then realised this idea is kinda awesome and I finally started thinking.
This is the third version of this post. I wrote it once saying this whole idea was pointless, then revised it, then realised this idea is kinda awesome and I finally started thinking.
FlowerSunRain
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If Shamans counted as clerics I think I would be able to pull this off, but as is I think running the sanctum in the utility draft is as deep as you need to go. Its a pretty useful land. Maybe Rotlung reanimator too, but Xanthid Necromancer is kind of the same thing for a bigger tribe. Cabal Archon is a very cool card, but its just so narrow.
haha, my partially custom cube that i'm working on w/ a friend of mine (trying to convince him to come post on here at some point) has a xathrid necromancer / rotlung reanimator mashup that counts both, and an errata'd profane prayers
For a while I was on a make-good-clerics bent because I always felt bad for that tribe and because I thought BW could use improving. I like the idea of focusing on BW's mana and reach a little more though.
If we ever get hybrid symbols on the site I'll post some of the ideas.
I think Extort and Exalted are super sweet mechanics and totally under utilized they fit clerics very well. I also think protection is too much of a bad word right now and could probably be explored in different situations to make cool cards.
If we ever get hybrid symbols on the site I'll post some of the ideas.
I think Extort and Exalted are super sweet mechanics and totally under utilized they fit clerics very well. I also think protection is too much of a bad word right now and could probably be explored in different situations to make cool cards.
CML
Contributor
here's an a/b/c list from the magiccards.info search i just did
ancestor’s prophet
angus mackenzie
benevolent bodyguard
devoted caretaker
doomed necromancer
exava, rakdos blood witch
false prophet
grand abolisher
hedge troll
leonin relic-warder
lyzolda, the blood witch
mikaeus, the lunarch
mikaeus, the unhallowed
nearheath pilgrim
noble benefactor
oracle of nectars
order of whiteclay
orzhov pontiff
rotlung reanimator
samite archer
sin collector
skirsdag high priest
soltari visionary
soul warden
soul’s attendant
suture priest
transcendent master
true believer
weathered wayfarer
ancestor’s prophet
angus mackenzie
benevolent bodyguard
devoted caretaker
doomed necromancer
exava, rakdos blood witch
false prophet
grand abolisher
hedge troll
leonin relic-warder
lyzolda, the blood witch
mikaeus, the lunarch
mikaeus, the unhallowed
nearheath pilgrim
noble benefactor
oracle of nectars
order of whiteclay
orzhov pontiff
rotlung reanimator
samite archer
sin collector
skirsdag high priest
soltari visionary
soul warden
soul’s attendant
suture priest
transcendent master
true believer
weathered wayfarer
Order of Whiteclay looks like a good card. Anybody tried it?