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CML, reserved as ever.

Somehow I never made the connection that the activation cost on Urza's Factory is Tron mana.

Angel has resolved a lot over here. It's kind of a top-end in a removal heavy UW or Esper control deck most of the time. But ideally one that also plays stuff like Baneslayer Angel and other creatures so that when Serenity hits the board you'll have already soaked up their removal spells.

The other four look great. Play Sandstone Bridge, give Knight of the Reliquary vigilance. Attack. Sacrifice a land mid-combat to pump KOTR, grab Looming Spires to give it +1/+1 and first strike.

Time to bring back Knight of the Reliquary if you cut him?

Faff off Grillo, I have a cube with Eldrazi and Proliferate themes! :)

Can we address this "filler is bad" mentality? I'm not sure that I agree. What are we defining as filler and what are we defining as bad?

Please do! What are your thoughts?

Well, the one thing I was thinking of was Scry abuse. But... I don't know, I guess you scry what you want to the bottom and then exile something from your hand? How does that exiling work with the new eldrazi?!?!?

To be honest I'd be pretty happy if usable ideas came from this thread (or were inspired by this thread).

Bottom?

I feel so violated.

Everybody to the limit The Cheat is to the limit?

Whoa whoa whoa, shush with the B-word.

If I ever sleeve up my cube again I think I'll test the "additional cost" thing. It could be incredibly stupid, but I would like a thing that decreases mana screw while still giving the players interesting options and choices.

Nullifier is cool, and finally, a better glimpse into what Ingest is for. Cool design!

Did nobody read further in the same thread?