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Humpty_Dumpty

Humpty_Dumpty

I’m thinking about building a cube from the final years before modern, up to Scourge.

How broken would it be to upgrade morph creatures to have all creature types rather than no creature types?
 
Seeker

Seeker

Honestly, I don't think it constrains the rest of your options that much!

Sure, there's a spectrum of power level changes from "too much" to "not much":
Sparksmith gets even dumber
Gempalm Incinerator becomes very good
Elvish Champion isn't really that much above where it's usually at when you're playing it in your deck anyway.
Lightning Bolt doesn't care

If that makes sense? With Lord of Atlantis being a notable exception, almost every lord-creature was 3+ mana - Eladamri, Lord of Leaves doesn't murder them instantly - so while the morphs are better and you get more creature-types-matter than usual, it doesn't really do anything tooooo stupid. Maybe Dragonspeaker Shaman lets you do something filthy with some kind of Mana Echoes or something? Coat of Arms and Cryptic Gateway get more interesting when morphs enable them, you're already spending a jillion mana... I think it's a net benefit.
 
Rusje

Rusje

Humpty_Dumpty said:
I’m thinking about building a cube from the final years before modern, up to Scourge.

How broken would it be to upgrade morph creatures to have all creature types rather than no creature types?
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Not at all. However, where do you want to start? There are some weird care about creature types in the old days. Let alone the powerlevel differences.


God this game used to be great.
 
Seeker

Seeker

Secret Lair: Sonic the Hedgehog.

as not really a Sonic fan in particular but familiar with the video games from being a teenager in the '00s, they actually nailed the characters and a couple of these look legitimately fun to play with:

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it's probably still not Samut, Vizier of Naktamun and/or Ognis, the Dragon's Lash o'clock, but hey, a me can dream

e: lol I forgot Ardoz, Cobbler of War
 
LadyMapi

LadyMapi

Jason talking about Skaab Ruinator reminded me of a dumb micro-archetype that I keep wanting to stick somewhere (cards are examples):

Selesnya "Reanimator"



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It's pretty low powered, but the idea is that you run white cards that reanimate cheap permanents for value purposes, green cards that fill your graveyard (for value purposes), and a handful of above-the-curve-but-hard-to-cast-normally creatures that you can grumpily reanimate when Villain reminds you that this is a 2-player game that you're both trying to win (whatever).
 
LadyMapi

LadyMapi

Ah yes, the beautiful Übermyr. I love that guy.
TekLazar said:
don't forget about
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I feel like mass-reanimating cheap creatures is a different strategy than reanimating cheap permanents, even if they do have some definite card overlap. Which isn't to say that a deck wouldn't want both cards, mind you, but the idea is to lean more into reanimation as something grindy and value-focused rather than it being your finisher, if that makes sense.
 
Seeker

Seeker

Just upped my cube from 360 to 450. Double-sleeved, new sleeves (so there's still a bit of air in them I assume) + 200 basics... and it no longer fits neatly in a BCW 930 Count cardboard box (which is 17.25" long).

What's everyone's go-to cube storage solution? I don't want anything truly custom, not looking for a lovely wooden box or anything. The $5 corrugated cardboard is my kind of box, just not long enough. I'd take a two-row designed to hold about a thousand cards, or if someone knows something better. Definitely willing to spend like $40 on something nicer, also, if that's truly the best option. I do not like BCW's 1600 count plastic bins that look like a lunchbox your dad gives you in kindergarten.
 
Seeker

Seeker

Onderzeeboot said:
I store my cube in the old fat pack storage boxes (the newer ones have lids that don’t extend to the bottom fully, making them prone to collapsing).

E.g. if you look here: https://www.amazon.com.au/Set-Empty-Random-Magic-Gathering/dp/B07DS1FWQD

You want the ones that have the half circular indentation on the bottom, not the ones that have a slanted bottom on the cover (like the one on the bottom right).
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oh my god, I hadn't even thought of these, my type 4 stack back in high school was stored in a Dissension fat pack box (the one with Rakdos the Defiler art on it) because I owned it and it was resilient as hell and just perfect

literally the only box with a not-attached top that I've ever liked. I don't think that thing ever came open accidentally even once. that's actually an option on the table! (along with "just get two bcws coward", which is currently winning)

Rusje said:
At least it is not a lunchbox, but looks like a tool/gun box depending where you are from.
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https://www.gamegenic.com/product/game-shell-xl-650/?attribute_pa_color=black
"looks like you're carrying a gun in a movie" is a fairly common vibe in my searches so far, haha

Yours looks a little bulky, which on the one hand is worth the sturdiness but on the other if I ever go to a tournament again I'm likely to have a backpack and be flying and like, I don't want to navigate that situation, which I hadn't considered.
 
Rusje

Rusje

Seeker said:
oh my god, I hadn't even thought of these, my type 4 stack back in high school was stored in a Dissension fat pack box (the one with Rakdos the Defiler art on it) because I owned it and it was resilient as hell and just perfect

literally the only box with a not-attached top that I've ever liked. I don't think that thing ever came open accidentally even once. that's actually an option on the table! (along with "just get two bcws coward", which is currently winning)


https://www.gamegenic.com/product/game-shell-xl-650/?attribute_pa_color=black
"looks like you're carrying a gun in a movie" is a fairly common vibe in my searches so far, haha

Yours looks a little bulky, which on the one hand is worth the sturdiness but on the other if I ever go to a tournament again I'm likely to have a backpack and be flying and like, I don't want to navigate that situation, which I hadn't considered.
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Well, I had a few decks in a few regular boxes like
https://ultrapro.com/products/2-piece-clear-100-deck-box
with us in a backpack my better half was carrying. Their internal scanner alarm went off due to the density of the cards and I had to unpack the backpack due to the deck boxes/magic cards (which were of course on the bottom). When they saw what it was we could carry on (with some weird eyes on our backs). A dedicated backpack would have saved a lot of (un)packing.
 
Seeker

Seeker

Rusje said:
Their internal scanner alarm went off due to the density of the cards and I had to unpack the backpack due to the deck boxes/magic cards (which were of course on the bottom).
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This has happened to me literally twice in my life:
1) double-sleeved cube packed really tight in a cardboard box
2) three bricks of Wisconsin 3-year-cave-aged cheddar cheese

...all I'm saying is, it means you're doing something right!
 
Humpty_Dumpty

Humpty_Dumpty

I use a quiver case for my 450 card cube and I am really happy with it. The gamegenic case Seeker mentioned above is a little bigger and less expensive so may be a better option.

I also use a small aluminium flight case I bought in an electronics store. It holds 3 rows of cards lying down and stores two medium sized cubes plus a shared set of lands and tokens.
 
Seeker

Seeker

Humpty_Dumpty said:
I use a quiver case for my 450 card cube and I am really happy with it. The gamegenic case Seeker mentioned above is a little bigger and less expensive so may be a better option.

I also use a small aluminium flight case I bought in an electronics store. It holds 3 rows of cards lying down and stores two medium sized cubes plus a shared set of lands and tokens.
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Huh, I didn't know Quiver made cases! I bought my new set of sleeves from them because they were recommended by a friend (they have specific slightly taller for double-sleeved cards sleeves that are 93mm instead of 91mm) but I did not browse their website closely

oh and if anyone's wondering, my wife who has never played Magic in her life and likely never will chimed in with "I dunno, I kinda like the 'cardboard box' aesthetic you've had for the cube the entire time I've known you. I've grown attached to that" so two BCWs it is, because I gotta keep her happy <3
 
Velrun

Velrun

I use Quiver also. Have 8 of them now. Best purchase ever made for my Magic life. Waterproof. Super solid. I love them!

Make sure you scout around and not just get the first available. There are a few variants if I remember correctly. I think there is a deluxe version. I would not even hesitate buying that one. You won’t regret.

However get more than one. You always want more of these bad boys.
 
TekLazar

TekLazar

Hmm even though I don't care for a lot of the designs so far in Edge of Eternity, I can say that it is ultimately a much more flavorful and interesting set than Outlaws of Thunder Junction and whatnot. While Vorthos-ing is subjective, I would bet money that these new sets are going to sell better and be better received.

I do agree that I want some more interesting worlds though, Outlaws had an interesting plane, but I feel like it was bogged down by the fact that it felt like every single character from Magic's history showed up and took up card space. (Over half of the legendary creatures in OTJ are from different planes, and only one of the "joins up" characters is original, which makes sense according to the lore, but it's weird because this is a plane that we really don't know much about yet). I think that the "everyone is here" aspect is what is also diluting the play experience. I love Jaya she is an iconic character, but I wouldn't want to see her every other set, I preferred her staying on Dominaria. But everyone is hopping around and it's... a little weird. I never had that disconnect when I saw Garruk all over the place, but that's cuz he's a nomadic character, like Doctor Who. But now everyone is Doctor Who. Which can work, but it needs to be done with care.

And I say all that and War of the Spark is one of my favorite sets flavorfully. But to me that set earned its "everyone is here" moment, (much like Avengers: infinity war and endgame) and had so many planeswalkers that the set felt and played differently than the rest.

I think that they are getting wise to this as well but I think that collapsing the planes into "one" was a big mistake. Just observing how every single time marvel gets into the multiverse the reader base (and now viewerbase) dips out eventually is pretty telling.

I'm fine with Universes Beyond, I feel like it might be a necessary evil, and many of my co-players are getting into magic because of it. UB honestly has some of my favorite and cleanest designs nowadays (like resentful revelation and Il Mheg Pixie).
I love (most of) final fantasy, but the final fantasy set has characters from sixteen whole games, and every single main protagonist in those series. They could have done sixteen sets for each of the games, I personally would have preferred that because seeing guns next to my final fantasy characters that didn't have guns is really off for me. Hey, wait a second...

I know that Cloud and Lightning are both Final Fantasy, but I don't play the tcg and (outside of Japan) I don't know anyone that does. So it's weird for me to see them together and to say stuff like, "I block Lightning with my Cloud" (The double-entendres notwithstanding). And this cognitive dissonance is very similar to how it feels nowadays with every single set outside of Universes Beyond. I don't want every set to feel like a Universes Beyond set, even if technically they are all from the same universe.
 
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