General Do you like Tangle Wire games?

[Jason Waddell]

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[MCMcEmcee]

no

 

[Dom Harvey]

yes

no - 1
yes - 1

 

[ahadabans]

I think it's a fun card actually. I'll vote yes.

 

[CML]

they're OK

 

[Onderzeeboot]

Love them! Copying it with Phyrexian Metamorph and going to town with proliferate is even better

 

[Laz]

Love them! Copying it with Phyrexian Metamorph and going to town with proliferate is even better

I have mentioned the dream of Vorel in response to a Tangle Wire trigger before to my players in the Scuttle-cube. I suspect decking would be the result...

 

[Grillo_Parlante]

They're ok games. It’s probably the best prison card in the sense that it’s only a temporary and partial lockout, so you get the prison card thrill while leaving behind only a partially bad aftertaste. It’s probably a question of how desirable that effect is v. how much your players will be bothered by that aftertaste.

It is a weird card though as it’s not really explicitly wanted by any deck, yet at the same time doesn’t really encourage creativity—it just is, like some benign vestigial reminder of the dark days when winter orb and static orb roamed the earth.

 

[anotak]

yes

 

[Jonas]

Yes.

 

[Onderzeeboot]

So... 5-1-2 so far (yes/no/whatever)

 

[Jonas]

Then again, I like winter orb, so take what I think about it with a grain of salt, I guess.

 

[Diakonov]

Yes. It can lead to some interesting decisions and is only temporary unless shenanigans. And if it doesn't lead to interesting decisions, tapping all your lands and passing the turn only takes seconds.

 

[ColonelSanders]

Yes

 

[Onderzeeboot]

7-1-2

 

[GenericZero]

Tangle Wire gets even better if you play with any of the dudes who get inspired by being tangled up...(there aren't many GOOD cubable ones...(Arbiter of the Ideal,Pain Seer if you prefer that over Bob, Felhide Spiritbinder, Siren of the Silent Song, Daring Thief,King Macar, the Gold-Cursed, Disciple of Deceit...)

But a lot of those are only good in a lightly unpowered Theros-themed cube that cares about enchantments and whatnot....

 

[Alfonzo Bonzo]

Do we not have polls?

Yes, btw.

Was there any particular reason for this question Jason?

 

[Jason Waddell]

I was looking for a card to cut. I like Tangle Wire but don't view it as essential and wanted to put a nonaggro card in the slot for now. I'm sure it will be back someday.

 

[Jason Waddell]

Oh and we totally have polls but voiced discussions are more fun.

 

[ahadabans]

What if you got rid of Crucible? I know you wanted to 86 an aggro card, but does Crucible really do amazing things outside Loam decks (or recycling wasteland which isn't fun anyway)?

 

[James Stevenson]

Isn't there some crazy techie deck in Jason's cube that involves crucible and lands and stuff? Something about Zuran Orb or something

 

[Jason Waddell]

Crucible is an option. My cube is super unoptimized right now, mostly because so many things are in flux concurrently. I don't have anything I'm comfortable with "publishing" at the moment.

Orb is out currently so no such combo exists.

 

[Lucre]

I remember seriously disliking some of them. Is it an easy card to get out from under? I guess if it had a smaller impact I'd like it more.
I think I've loved playing it too though.
Anyone ever play any extended?

I can't tell if I like playing against skull clamp or tangle wire more.

 

[ahadabans]

Skullclamp is just broken to pieces. Tangle Wire is a great tempo card, but it's not unbeatable.

 

[Jonas]

Tangle wire depends on what you have on hand/in play, whilst skullclamp depends more on what you have in your deck. A t3 Tangle Wire against a deck that hasn't played anything can be very good, sure, but weren't you going to win that game anyway, unless they were just waiting for their wrath? I like Tangle wire, both in aggro decks and in more mid-range or controllish decks, since it might actually help you stabilize pretty well, if you had one or two removals on the first two turns.