General Fight Club

How is that art bad? It perfectly conveys the Goblin concept of sharpshooting.
"I've never missed at this range! Except that one time..."
-Bugglehukk, goblin sharpshooter
Edit: just noticed the artist credit, and imo it's one of wayne's best mtg pieces, or at least his most unique.
 

Chris Taylor

Contributor
The top end on Spikeshot elder is sweet, but the average case (no equipment) is....frustrating. A card for a single 1/1 just isn't worth it from a beatdown sense, and if the ping on masticore is bad, elder's ping is horrible.

That being said, I did have someone topdeck spikeshot elder, Equip grafted wargear, Flashback Reckless charge, swing and activate (off a city of brass that put him to 1) taking his opponent from 14 to 0 while dead on board.

That was cool
 

Grillo_Parlante

Contributor
Yeah if you're in a faster format you can't really play elder, and really should be running grim lavamancer.

I never could get behind spikeshot goblin though because paying three mana in red for a card that dosen't do anything on its own seems so bad, and 3s are kind of sort of red aggros top end. I would think elder would be the better choice because you are at least filling out the 1 drop slot with your potentially marginal ping effects, and elder is a much better mana sink for a red deck.
 
I know... Honestly I'm looking for another cut, but my sections are so tight because of the whole multicolor thing.

I should probably just go ahead and cut Fledgling Dragon. It's a pet card of mine, and I still pass it every time...

Perhaps move Fire // Ice over to Izzet and cut something there? Goblin Bombardment just seems too essential to me. It enables so many things.

Also, if you're trying Trigon of Rage, you might want to consider Power Matrix. A bit slower but free activations are really nice.
 
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Sort of in the same spirit. As part of an aristocrat package, which one would be the better card? It feels like it could be too slow with a three drop, but also getting two power makes it significantly more useful when you don't have any sac fodder.
 

Grillo_Parlante

Contributor
I think in most powered formats both cards offer a bad return on their mana, so would be inclined to just go with the cheaper sac. outlet.

Otherwise I would go with husk.
 
Bloodthrone
lil mama looks sickening and black needs 2s
I just added her and I have high hopes personally, she looks like she can put in some good work
 

Chris Taylor

Contributor
I've got a 2/1 bloodthrone vampire, so best of both worlds :p

Having watched a bunch of games where nantuko husk is in play recently, between Origins limited and research in that new UB Aristocrats deck, not having to sac a creature to contribute real damage is a big upside.
Giving a creature +1/+1 for {1} usually ends up being an upside in limited and a downside in constructed, but Husk is the kind of creature you'd only play in a constructed leaning deck anyways, so I think vampire gets the nod here

Note: The real Takeaway from the UB Aristocrats deck is not Sidisi's Faithful sacing creatures and bouncing itself. Whirler Rogue comes down, makes husk unblockable, and provides +6/+6 on it's own, let alone having junk like carrier thrall in play
 
As war as recent discussion goes, Pod seems to need a fair bit of setup while Leap just looks like an easy include in almost any green deck?
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Pod and Leap aren't really comparable to me. Pod is some weird value-engine that defines a deck, whereas Leap just kind of blanks removal and keeps threats coming. idk, I see them both playing very different roles. I do like Leap so far, though.
 
Pod and Leap aren't really comparable to me. Pod is some weird value-engine that defines a deck, whereas Leap just kind of blanks removal and keeps threats coming. idk, I see them both playing very different roles. I do like Leap so far, though.


Leap gets really good when you are saccing good pod creatures
 
Would you play Leap in an aggro-recursion deck?

Definitely! BG sac/recursive decks here are pretty nice, so I can fersher see Leap fitting into those lists, or a WBG list, even, taking full advantage of token outlets across all three colours to dig out some of the meatier beaters to close out with.
 

Chris Taylor

Contributor
Would you play Leap in an aggro-recursion deck?

It's been pretty sweet here. Instead of controlling the board with goblin bombardment, you end up flooding the board with 5-6 gravecrawler like guys and win by shriekmawing a key blocker and running them over. I think the deck might be one of the better ones to take advantage of Overrun, but I still don't like overrun as a card.

I'm also on Triple Nest Invader, so that doesn't hurt either.
As war as recent discussion goes, Pod seems to need a fair bit of setup while Leap just looks like an easy include in almost any green deck?
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Yes, but Pod is 3-4 slots in your cube that makes a whole deck all on its own
 
Here's one I'm unsure about:
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They're both above-the-curve blue fliers for 3, but Illusory Angel is a lot easier to cast 'normally' (including on turn two with a Mox Diamond). They're also both great in a CoCo or Pod shell, but in the absence of a real self-mill archetype I worry that the support for Ruinator isn't there. It's such a sweet card though! I'm also not running Gravecrawlers, where I assume a yard-castable Zombie has even more advantages.

Mostly I want someone to tell me to either keep Ruinator in my Tiny Leaders deck, or that it's workable without a graveyard theme and I can cut the Angel for it.
 
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