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Onderzeeboot
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This one also looks fun.
I've been trying to figure out more ways to jam in food as part of a cross-synergy between my bourgeoning life gain sub theme and my trinkets subtheme that my beloved Stridehangar Automaton sent into overdrive earlier this year. I recognize that I'm going too deep on this, but I want to take it to its practical extreme because it's an interesting direction for my Cube now that I've de-powered my list quite a bit.
I've always had a good amount of artifact creatures relative to most of us, but Iron Spider, Stark Upgrade works great across different decks (and is a fine beater on her own a la my first true love Phyrexian Ironfoot) but Aloy, Savior of Meridian works on a completely different vertical while still wanting many of the same cards.
I am also enjoying other favorite cards get better with the rise of trinkets like Syr Ginger, the Meal Ender, Rosie Cotton of South Lane, Legion Extruder, and Karn, Scion of Urza. I finally can justify my boy Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge. Even Umbral Collar Zealot has improved since its recent inclusion, and Biotech Specialist feels uncuttable even if he ends up making a unique token as a novel alternative win condition.
Going even deeper into food, I've been trying out Bumi's Feast Lecture and Campsite Cuisine. This is where I think it's actually a stretch, but I kind of like them. Trying to figure out how to best support them and I came up with these. Do they make sense?
Icing Manipulator was one I played for a single Cube when it came out because I was so fascinated by it but...I don't remember! I don't know if anyone played it or had any questions or even if it made it into the pool. It's exactly what I want conceptually, and the cross-synergies with all the +1/+1 counters running around promises really cool deck construction and play patterns. But it's super confusing!! Maybe? I can't really tell. At least the +1/+1 counters really only need to tap when they die.
Meriadoc Brandybuck has been in Cube before. I only run a handful of hobbits, but my bigger concern is that people will think it's a bigger part of my Cube than it is if I have a on-its-face hobbits-matter card. It's not great, either, but I think that's OK. I think I want it more than Spider-Pig.
Gourmand's Talent solves the problem a la Icing Manipulator, and also contributes to the larger life gain thing, but it also adds another unique token and...I'm not sure people will actually want to play it? I will, but I'm curious if this seems appealing enough at my power level.
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Is he a joke to you??? This guy is weird, but will play well especially with a small life gain subtheme.
Thought you were on the Talent, not anymore I guess. These two can mill people out real quick if you are generating a lot of fodder!
Tap down your foods, not your mana.
I really like Bumi's Feast Lecture, I say go for it! At worse a bear with counter and land synergies. At best who knows!
Campsite Cuisine should also be pretty good with your legendary theme.
I'm in the market for an equipment that makes creatures unblockable. Unfortunately all the good options are UB (I'm aware of Trailblazer's Boots) and all discussion of them online revolves around commander, so was hoping to get some cuber's insight.
• I like Silver Shroud Costume's base floor of being a trick, but it has more dubious value afterwards as an equipment.
• I love what Psychic Paper does for tribal synergies, but I'm not sure what / if any tricks there are to pull with the creature name part (which just adds confusion), and no free equip / equip 2 makes it really painful to get rolling.
• Brotherhood Regalia offers a mostly worthless tribal synergy, but offers more protection and the equip legend cost makes it tempting. I don't see this so much as a legend build-around and just that so many creatures are legends now that it's usually equipping for
I think my dream card would be like a Brotherhood Regalia that gives changeling, a psychic paper that only cost to cast, or a Silver Shroud that didn't revolve around the shroud keyword or had some stat increase that makes it worth re-equipping.
Anyone run any of these, or another option, to say which they prefer?
• I like Silver Shroud Costume's base floor of being a trick, but it has more dubious value afterwards as an equipment.
• I love what Psychic Paper does for tribal synergies, but I'm not sure what / if any tricks there are to pull with the creature name part (which just adds confusion), and no free equip / equip 2 makes it really painful to get rolling.
• Brotherhood Regalia offers a mostly worthless tribal synergy, but offers more protection and the equip legend cost makes it tempting. I don't see this so much as a legend build-around and just that so many creatures are legends now that it's usually equipping for
I think my dream card would be like a Brotherhood Regalia that gives changeling, a psychic paper that only cost
to cast, or a Silver Shroud that didn't revolve around the shroud keyword or had some stat increase that makes it worth re-equipping.Anyone run any of these, or another option, to say which they prefer?
Onderzeeboot
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Any of these an option?
Good call-out! I can definitely see this punching above it's weight, but I would have loved for it to trigger on attack (ala Pip-Boy 3000)Is granting flying maybe also enough for you? Because this one had really overperformed for me (looting strong).
I can't believe I've forgotten about this card, and I'm surprised I don't see more people running this! Maybe it's because it generally gets pushed out by Mask of Memory, but I think they each have their uses.
Any of these an option?
This is great though and pretty close to what I'm looking for. I love the idea of slapping it onto a creature that gains from connecting, and putting your opponent in kind of a lose / lose scenario.
I've never gotten the chance to play with or against this card, so am woefully unequipped to gauge it's power level, but I don't want to be anywhere near in power to the OG Jitte, so this has always been tempting.In an adjacent space
Now that I'm experimenting more with Earthbending maybe 'untap target land' has some cool synergies outside of it's 'intended' purpose for busted lands like Cradle and Academy (which I don't run). Equip
is great either way.Smart thinking on the eater here; I'd been running Bonesplitter for it's simplicity, but I like the idea of equipping this to a Illvoi Galeblade and just making your own EquipKinda unblockable and more overall useful work?
Not sure what the purpose of being unblockable is here, so not sure if these work. Sword of X&Y also give 40% coverage.
, get flying equipment I'm hoping for. Also recent additions like Dragon Sniper are pretty dirty with this too.Winged boots seem like a strong card, but a little boring, and promotes not interacting with your opponents creatures on multiple levels. The Lens , Lost Jitte, and Zephyr boots seem like they strike a fairer balance there.
Thanks all for your suggestions!
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Just to add in, I do really like both Brotherhood Regalia and Silver Shroud Costume. I think it's a matter of taste, personally.
On a separate note, I've been rotating a bunch of freshly-printed 1-drop creatures in white this year. It's been a good year for them! I feel like I've swapped in a new one at least once every set. Especially for me with my legends-matter theme, this has been a gluttonous amount, with 9 of the 12 legendary 1-drops in white in the entire game having been printed in 2025.
While they're not always getting swapped for one another, it's basically been this kind of progression, ignoring Descendant of Storms who has not been threatened for removal once since getting spoiled.
Basri is great (I especially like having cycling on a Savannah Lions!) but I don't like the needless complexity attached to the cycling and I don't want a unique token, particularly one that's so similar to Ocelot Pride. I also have been trying to cool it on the volume of Savannah Lions since I've been trying to soften Boros aggro.
Stiltzkin, Moogle Merchant was fun. I like having lifelink on 1mv dudes for the sake of triggering my burgeoning life gain matters minor theme, and he can turn your opponent's removal into card draw opportunities. Still, pretty low-impact, especially at my power level.
Zack Fair is just good. Gets in on both the legends-matter and +1/+1 themes, and one-time-only indestructible for a single mana that doesn't require a tap? Not bad utility. I don't like the art at all, but I'd still be happy with this guy.
Lightstall Inquisitor just didn't do it for me. The ability is a bit more confusing to read than the payoff would suggest, and Vigilance is great but maybe is turning the dial a little too high on the 1-drop slot. The biggest sin is that it's not terribly synergistic with what else I have going on.
I'm now running Soul Warden, but it'd be Aunt May if I had the OM1 version in paper. I may only run 3 spiders, but I like the legendary-matters and the extra toughness more than gaining life from my opponents' creatures (particularly with Fire Magic and Iroh's Demonstration recently added, and the additive distraction isn't too bad here. Still, by this point I began to feel bad that these new 1-drops weren't even making it to an actual Cube draft on average!
Then came The Duke, Rebel Sentry. It's another version of Zack Fair that gives hexproof over indestructible. For white? I'm not sure which I prefer. But I liked that he stuck around instead of sacrificing himself, and didn't ask for mana to do it. Losing the ability to do the ability his first turn out is rough though, and he can't do it if he attacks. I think I prefer Zack, but it's close.
Which brings us to Momo, Friendly Flier. I like this card a lot...in theory! I don't have a ton of flying, but I have enough, and I like that he suggests a flyers deck alongside the recently-acquired Rinoa, Angel Wing, who I've been really enjoying so far (more for the Lifeline ability than as a flying lord, but hey, it helps). Ok, counting again, it's ~80 flyers in my Cube. That's plenty, yeah. Not all of them benefit from the cost reduction, but it seems reasonable, and I like having 1-drop flyers in general.
...which brings me to Momo, Playful Pet, which feels just as good if not better? Man, I was close enough to testing City Pideon that I feel like this Momo could bring something real to the table.
Shoutout to Curious Farm Animals, a totally respectable card. And hell, Nesting Bot would have made the list if I was willing to tolerate "Start your engines!". Design is great otherwise.
I guess I don't know which one of these all I like more? This has been quite the journey for me. I would say I'm on Momo, Friendly Flier right now, but I feel a bit of uncertainty about it, which I guess is what happens when you get so many 1-drops printed in the same year you realize you may have too many.
On a separate note, I've been rotating a bunch of freshly-printed 1-drop creatures in white this year. It's been a good year for them! I feel like I've swapped in a new one at least once every set. Especially for me with my legends-matter theme, this has been a gluttonous amount, with 9 of the 12 legendary 1-drops in white in the entire game having been printed in 2025.
While they're not always getting swapped for one another, it's basically been this kind of progression, ignoring Descendant of Storms who has not been threatened for removal once since getting spoiled.
Basri is great (I especially like having cycling on a Savannah Lions!) but I don't like the needless complexity attached to the cycling and I don't want a unique token, particularly one that's so similar to Ocelot Pride. I also have been trying to cool it on the volume of Savannah Lions since I've been trying to soften Boros aggro.
Stiltzkin, Moogle Merchant was fun. I like having lifelink on 1mv dudes for the sake of triggering my burgeoning life gain matters minor theme, and he can turn your opponent's removal into card draw opportunities. Still, pretty low-impact, especially at my power level.
Zack Fair is just good. Gets in on both the legends-matter and +1/+1 themes, and one-time-only indestructible for a single mana that doesn't require a tap? Not bad utility. I don't like the art at all, but I'd still be happy with this guy.
Lightstall Inquisitor just didn't do it for me. The ability is a bit more confusing to read than the payoff would suggest, and Vigilance is great but maybe is turning the dial a little too high on the 1-drop slot. The biggest sin is that it's not terribly synergistic with what else I have going on.
I'm now running Soul Warden, but it'd be Aunt May if I had the OM1 version in paper. I may only run 3 spiders, but I like the legendary-matters and the extra toughness more than gaining life from my opponents' creatures (particularly with Fire Magic and Iroh's Demonstration recently added, and the additive distraction isn't too bad here. Still, by this point I began to feel bad that these new 1-drops weren't even making it to an actual Cube draft on average!
Then came The Duke, Rebel Sentry. It's another version of Zack Fair that gives hexproof over indestructible. For white? I'm not sure which I prefer. But I liked that he stuck around instead of sacrificing himself, and didn't ask for mana to do it. Losing the ability to do the ability his first turn out is rough though, and he can't do it if he attacks. I think I prefer Zack, but it's close.
Which brings us to Momo, Friendly Flier. I like this card a lot...in theory! I don't have a ton of flying, but I have enough, and I like that he suggests a flyers deck alongside the recently-acquired Rinoa, Angel Wing, who I've been really enjoying so far (more for the Lifeline ability than as a flying lord, but hey, it helps). Ok, counting again, it's ~80 flyers in my Cube. That's plenty, yeah. Not all of them benefit from the cost reduction, but it seems reasonable, and I like having 1-drop flyers in general.
...which brings me to Momo, Playful Pet, which feels just as good if not better? Man, I was close enough to testing City Pideon that I feel like this Momo could bring something real to the table.
Shoutout to Curious Farm Animals, a totally respectable card. And hell, Nesting Bot would have made the list if I was willing to tolerate "Start your engines!". Design is great otherwise.
I guess I don't know which one of these all I like more? This has been quite the journey for me. I would say I'm on Momo, Friendly Flier right now, but I feel a bit of uncertainty about it, which I guess is what happens when you get so many 1-drops printed in the same year you realize you may have too many.
Debatably a "one drop", but I discovered this recently, accidentally added two copies to my "next update" workspace cube, and then figured I'd keep it that way. Errataed to work a bit like "airbend 5".
Anyway, I like The Duke a lot, it's not that mechanically simple, does something useful, and benefits a lot from ways to give it additional +1/+1 counters, which gives you some emergent synergies that are fun when they come together, but not to the degree that you necessarily expect a +1/+1 counters deck to be present.