One with nature seems not bad though. But I think Keen Sense and/or Sixth Sense could just be better most of the time, because they can draw you business cards and require far lass shuffeling.
Card/Deck Low Power Card Spotlight
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This is true, and the shuffling point is a good one I should keep in mind more often. One with Nature is likely worse than either of the cards you mentioned overall, but I like the idea of diversifying the saboteur effects.
A five mana 5/5 or 6/6 isn’t exactly degenerate in low powered settings, and this doesn’t have any evasion. Plunderers is either a highly situational 5/5 or a 5/5 for 7UUUBBB. The activated ability is super mana intensive and not exactly the most relevant effect in the late game. Looks pretty bad to me.
The potential for neat interactions is definitely there. I just don't think Plunderers is enticing enough for the mana investment. Those three cards you listed are more self-sufficient, mana-efficient, and have better payoffs. Next to those, Plunderers looks significantly lower in power...which is difficult when it also occupies a guild slot. ymmv
To me the issue with Deadeye Plunderers is that the activated ability is too expensive to be relevant. Sure, it's a mana sink, and those are good to have, but most of the time you will have much more interesting things to do with 4 mana.
So even if you're left with a 5 mana 7/7, would you run a vanilla 5 mana 7/7 in a guild slot? It's an imperfect analogy, but worth keeping in mind.
So even if you're left with a 5 mana 7/7, would you run a vanilla 5 mana 7/7 in a guild slot? It's an imperfect analogy, but worth keeping in mind.
or ?Not a lot of options....Contraband Kingpin is fine, but not particularly exciting.
What's your artifact package look like now? Would this be for your casual cube? I ask, because I don't see any support for the archetype at the moment in your list. Perhaps just adding 1-2 solid artifact-related black cards could incentivize dimir without using a guild slot.
There's also:
These cards are real janky but could be fun to try and fit into a UB artifact theme:
The Astrolabe is a bad trading post, but is in option if you want to duplicate trading post's last ability. The conjurer pumps out sac fodder each turn that could be used for either of trading post's last two abilities. I feel like there might be some other fun interactions hidden there too. (edit: Like, for instance, triggering Marionette Master every upkeep!)
These cards are real janky but could be fun to try and fit into a UB artifact theme:
The Astrolabe is a bad trading post, but is in option if you want to duplicate trading post's last ability. The conjurer pumps out sac fodder each turn that could be used for either of trading post's last two abilities. I feel like there might be some other fun interactions hidden there too. (edit: Like, for instance, triggering Marionette Master every upkeep!)
Rona is pretty cool I guess. And Sphinx Summoner could be good value with a few strong targets.
No, it is my casual cube, but the 450 version is old, this 500 cards version comes with an artifact theme in
and multiple colorless support/pay off cards.
http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcurve/103460;jsessionid=C78954E8ACFABAE7D3C3C60E0B25FF67
As other payoffs could be considered:
No, it is my casual cube, but the 450 version is old, this 500 cards version comes with an artifact theme in
and multiple colorless support/pay off cards.http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcurve/103460;jsessionid=C78954E8ACFABAE7D3C3C60E0B25FF67
As other payoffs could be considered:
Cool control tool, or 'gotcha' annoying to the token player?
imho all of the Traps are bad for cube because there's not really any intent behind their presence, so there's no true sense of getting outwitted, just randomly hosed. they feel less awful in constructed because your opponent planned for the scenario of getting swarmed but in cube it's just like "oh neat, I get to cast this mediocre situational removal spell for less because you swarmed. cool" which is v unsatisfying for both players
yeah. I think in general it's a good idea to avoid cards that can wildly swing in power/efficiency/etc. for seemingly little or no reason from Villain's point of view. Example: Miracles
Taking a quick look at your list, I don't really see much support for ax control deck anyways, so I probably wouldn't start with this type of effect, and also probably just forgo white as a control color altogether, focusing more on Grixis as the controlling colors.
Taking a quick look at your list, I don't really see much support for a
x control deck anyways, so I probably wouldn't start with this type of effect, and also probably just forgo white as a control color altogether, focusing more on Grixis as the controlling colors.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Has been surprisingly decent in my cube. The scry, the big butt, the low cmc, and the lifelink all add up to a valuable cog in the artifact deck.
artifact deck.It seems pretty good to me, honestly. I learned magic with Horned Turtle and Vedalken Entrancer, so I know the value of a 1/4 body. My only concern with the Kingpin is, that it feels so unexiting. Like, for a 2-mana 1/4 scrying 1 almost every turn, is a pretty good upside. But for a multicolored payoff card, I just would like to get a little more BANG, even if I have to pay more mana. Something, that really could win you the game for going artifact.dec
Yeah, I think you really hit the nail on the head Onder when you casually called it a cog. It's not what I'd personally call "payoff" for the artifact deck. I think of something more like
Which is a powerful and evocative pair of effects that can really frontline the archetype (and unfortunately not lol). Kingpin just kinda makes the deck work a little better. That's not to say I don't like it, because I definitely do. It's a good draft signal, especially if you are pushing more of the trinket-y kind of artifact deck.
I do think most of the good payoffs in Dimir for the deck, at least at the specified power level, are in mono-color sections.
Which is a powerful and evocative pair of effects that can really frontline the archetype (and unfortunately not
lol). Kingpin just kinda makes the deck work a little better. That's not to say I don't like it, because I definitely do. It's a good draft signal, especially if you are pushing more of the trinket-y kind of artifact deck.I do think most of the good payoffs in Dimir for the deck, at least at the specified power level, are in mono-color sections.
Grillo_Parlante
Contributor
That card is very strong. I would not run it in a low power cube.
Phyrexian Processor is really just: "Flip a coin. If you win the flip, you win the game." It's a gambling card that will typically lead to a win for someone shortly thereafter.
pays 0 life, Morbid on demand
Are any Morbid triggers worth 4 mana?