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Chris Taylor
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Rishkar is awesome
I like both quite a bit, think they will work well for you. Wondering on the blue side, any particular reason for Aether Adept over Man-o'-war? Section feels a little stacked oncards.
Riptide Laboratory in the ULD and human being a relevant type.
...and the Mad Prophet agreed, and was inspired and urged by the precursors in his archived ramblings to pursue a higher, purer form.
Long Live Turbo Xerox.
An example deck:
drafted astaedm's cube..
p1p1: Venser, the Sojourner, because I removed flicker from my cube and was interested to see how the archetype manifests in a synergy-driven cube.
p1p2: Clocknapper, oh F#
I proceeded to draft the type of deck that will make opponents scratch their eyes out.
I love it!! Does that make me a sociopath?
p1p1: Venser, the Sojourner, because I removed flicker from my cube and was interested to see how the archetype manifests in a synergy-driven cube.
p1p2: Clocknapper, oh F#
I proceeded to draft the type of deck that will make opponents scratch their eyes out.
I love it!! Does that make me a sociopath?
drafted astaedm's cube..
p1p1: Venser, the Sojourner, because I removed flicker from my cube and was interested to see how the archetype manifests in a synergy-driven cube.
p1p2: Clocknapper, oh F#
I proceeded to draft the type of deck that will make opponents scratch their eyes out.
I love it!! Does that make me a sociopath?
Oh lord that's disgusting, I love it! The proclamation probably makes it super consistent too! I can't wait to get back to drafting in person to see if this sort of thing is super oppressive, but I think the removal in the format can handle it. Clocky and friends are on the watchlist for sure tho.
Gonna try drafting your cube, I've read a lot of your cube blog posts and I love some of your card choice but otherwise going in blind.
First picked Mirror-Mad-Phantasm like a madman, then was rewarded with the actual madman, Lab Man. Picked duals highly cause I like casting spells in high-synergy environments and got passed Wasteland, Loam, Gifts, Raven's Crime, and Excavator. Good lord. Forbid+Loam is the spice of the day. Thoughts on drafting, a lot of the cards are pretty esoteric and I feel like I'd need to read a primer before drafting to understand all the combos in here (is an 8th pick Protean Hulk a signal? Are there rituals for Brain Freeze and Minds Desire?). The sort of thing that rewards drafting practice, which I like!
Interesting thought experiment, which one would win?
Well seeing as neither deck has much efficient disruption, I think it'd be a coin toss as to who got their engines up and running first. I think the Blink deck would have to get Clocknapper in play to win or build its own Swallower with Body Double, because the Sultai deck has more ways to lock someone out of the game via stripping hands with Raven's Crime, Forbid locks, and Death Cloud. Decking could be a real problem for both decks in the match
Drafted astraedm's again:
p1p1: Eternal Witness
p1p2: Tarmogoyf
p1p3: Crystal Shard
Went for a Pseudo Eternal Command Deck.....ended up with a recursive Seasons deck with late game lockout potential.
Have you considered Walk the Aeons in place of Part the Waterveil? It doesn't exile itself so you can recur it, and its nuts with Titania, Protector of Argoth. I drafted Titania, but ultimately didn't have enough ways to reliably trigger her. I pulled her from my list, because I had too many ways to trigger her, and it felt like once it hit play you just won.
I like your cube a lot, and it gives me some inspiration for my own. I feel that there's a handful of cards like Trail of Evidence which are way too low powered for what else is available to draft....which will likely sort themselves out with time.
Drafted astraedm's again:
p1p1: Eternal Witness
p1p2: Tarmogoyf
p1p3: Crystal Shard
Went for a Pseudo Eternal Command Deck.....ended up with a recursive Seasons deck with late game lockout potential.
Have you considered Walk the Aeons in place of Part the Waterveil? It doesn't exile itself so you can recur it, and its nuts with Titania, Protector of Argoth. I drafted Titania, but ultimately didn't have enough ways to reliably trigger her. I pulled her from my list, because I had too many ways to trigger her, and it felt like once it hit play you just won.
I like your cube a lot, and it gives me some inspiration for my own. I feel that there's a handful of cards like Trail of Evidence which are way too low powered for what else is available to draft....which will likely sort themselves out with time.
It’s been a super cool way to play more sorceries in your control deck. It’s interesting in the way that it helps out the nonstandard colors of control like UG more, as you can start deploying threats and holding up answers much quicker. I think “velocity” is the term used around here a lot?
@inscho Part the Waterveil will probably be time warp or walk the aeons eventually, Walk is definitely a cool idea now that titania is in and is also cute with as foretold and excavator and such. Titania is on the watchlist as i haven’t tested her IRL yet, but I don’t run zuran orb and the like so i think she should be fine as extra value w/ fetches, edge of autumn, etc. You’re right about trail and some others, ideally i’ll find some slots that are a little closer to my power level.
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Drafted inscho's Restart combo cube. Went for p1p1 Mulldrifter over Perilous Myr, Solemn Recruit, Shrine of Loyal Legions, Terminus, Clan Defiance and Goblin Welder. P1p2 greeted me with a Recruiter of the Guard, then Reveillark, then Monastery Master, Spell Queller, and a deck was born. Decided to run 16 land, because the only card I can't run out / cycle for less than four mana is Reveillark, plus a Land Tax, temple and bounceland should help with finding more mana as well.
In hindsight I think I should have picked up the Solemn Recruit when it wheeled, instead of the Siren Stormtamer, though having that protection available can be clutch when I want to protect my Mikaeus, for example. Tough call!
In hindsight I think I should have picked up the Solemn Recruit when it wheeled, instead of the Siren Stormtamer, though having that protection available can be clutch when I want to protect my Mikaeus, for example. Tough call!
drafted ravnic's cube
p1p1 propaganda
p1p2 windborn muse (love this card)
p1p3 fog bank
Who needs friends?
I really enjoyed the old school vibes. Casual is a good descriptor for this cube. It was a nice change of pace from the decision dense intricacies of my cube....it felt like a vacation.
Not every day you get to draft Archivist
I didn't end up with as many uses for Crystal Shard as I'd like, but with the taxing effects it should still be useful enough.
p1p1 propaganda
p1p2 windborn muse (love this card)
p1p3 fog bank
Who needs friends?
I really enjoyed the old school vibes. Casual is a good descriptor for this cube. It was a nice change of pace from the decision dense intricacies of my cube....it felt like a vacation.
Not every day you get to draft Archivist
I didn't end up with as many uses for Crystal Shard as I'd like, but with the taxing effects it should still be useful enough.
Two propaganda effects, Crystal shard + Mystic Snake ... That's a mean deck, I love it!
But why no Simic Growth Chamber?
Drafting yours now ...
P1P1 Sneak Attack
This deck would've been alot better with a Crucible of Worlds or Magus of the Crucible, but I didn't see any.
The cube is nice and looks like something I would do as a secondary cube.
But why no Simic Growth Chamber?
Drafting yours now ...
P1P1 Sneak Attack
This deck would've been alot better with a Crucible of Worlds or Magus of the Crucible, but I didn't see any.
The cube is nice and looks like something I would do as a secondary cube.
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Dom Harvey
Contributor
p1p1 Tinker
p1p2 Phyrexian Metamorph
p1p3 Arcbound Ravager
Interested to recurring nightmare deepglow skate to make ridiculously large tangle wires, while tapping down my opponents entire board and swinging through with a 42/42 baleful strix or just going straight to the dome with walking ballista.
p1p2 Phyrexian Metamorph
p1p3 Arcbound Ravager
Interested to recurring nightmare deepglow skate to make ridiculously large tangle wires, while tapping down my opponents entire board and swinging through with a 42/42 baleful strix or just going straight to the dome with walking ballista.
I tend to stick to beatdown strategies when I'm not super familiar with a cube, so here are some big, dumb, Gruul idiots. P1p1 was the Rampager, which was mostly so that I could stake out a safe archetype early. I wouldn't have hated one or two burn spells to help clear a path, but my dudes are big and will often have haste.
Psychic Spiral is a sweet card, has it been any good? Does it tend to be a case of set up, resolve it and win, or is it used for anything else?
Are you serious I've always assumed it was just a sorcery!!
Onderzeeboot
Ecstatic Orb
Drafted Ravnic's Ravnica Remastered cube... under my CubeTutor account (read this if you want to know why)
CT hasn't got a very good pick order list built for this cube yet, so I was getting some late doozies (like, one of the Wrecking Balls wheeled). Still, this looks like a blast to play, with some shenanigans, and from a certain point on, you'll have a critical mass of pingers to just deny your opponent any creatures. At least, that's my hope Also, somehow, in one of these games, I want to land a Followed Footsteps on Izzet Chronarch and just go ham on Compulsive Research and removal spells turn after turn!
Bonus draft:
(read this if you want to know why)CT hasn't got a very good pick order list built for this cube yet, so I was getting some late doozies (like, one of the Wrecking Balls wheeled). Still, this looks like a blast to play, with some shenanigans, and from a certain point on, you'll have a critical mass of pingers to just deny your opponent any creatures. At least, that's my hope
Also, somehow, in one of these games, I want to land a Followed Footsteps on Izzet Chronarch and just go ham on Compulsive Research and removal spells turn after turn! Bonus draft:
I drafted OZB's Crumble Pie cube and came away with something pretty cool.
Small guys + anthems, or use the small guys to stall into the value curve of big guys, or build Tezzeret's ult.
(draft my cube)
Small guys + anthems, or use the small guys to stall into the value curve of big guys, or build Tezzeret's ult.
(draft my cube)
Drafting Safra's Exploratory Sketch ...
p1p1 Mulldrifter. Didn't get there with a reanimator plan really, but I have some nice discard synergies with stuff like Drake Haven and Bloodgahst. I almost slipped into Sultai Drege again, but then decided to stay true to my two colors and go for a more controlish appeal. I wonder how strong Drake Haven is actually.
p1p1 Mulldrifter. Didn't get there with a reanimator plan really, but I have some nice discard synergies with stuff like Drake Haven and Bloodgahst. I almost slipped into Sultai Drege again, but then decided to stay true to my two colors and go for a more controlish appeal. I wonder how strong Drake Haven is actually.
Since Yan doesn't have a cube sadly, I drafted Ondeezeboot's, because he did a bonus draft before and he's my man.
I firstpicked Crucible and daaaamn, did I get payoff. This 4-colored pile of well thought-through craziness has so many nice synergies and interactions, I don't even know where to start. I love to play this for a few rounds of draft matches IRL now
The draft experience alone was really fun and as a fellow cube manager one can see, how much time and passion you put into this stack of cards.
To whoever comes next, please draft my current testing version of my cube there:
http://www.cubetutor.com/draft/103460
I'm planning to go up to 500 and could need evry bit of feedback
I firstpicked Crucible and daaaamn, did I get payoff. This 4-colored pile of well thought-through craziness has so many nice synergies and interactions, I don't even know where to start. I love to play this for a few rounds of draft matches IRL now
The draft experience alone was really fun and as a fellow cube manager one can see, how much time and passion you put into this stack of cards.
To whoever comes next, please draft my current testing version of my cube there:
http://www.cubetutor.com/draft/103460
I'm planning to go up to 500 and could need evry bit of feedback