Gatherer on "power 2 or less"
Looks interesting. Mentor of the Meek and Raid Bombardment seem good. Goblin Tunneler looks fringe playable. Imperial Recruiter obviously good.
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Gatherer on "power 2 or less"
Looks interesting. Mentor of the Meek and Raid Bombardment seem good. Goblin Tunneler looks fringe playable. Imperial Recruiter obviously good.
Dom Harvey
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also, I might try to get a Cube session together on Sunday at the GP for when I inevitably miss Day 2, so lmk if you feel like Cubing (if you aren't already!)
If Imperial Recruiter is in this year's Commander decks I will cry tears of joy. It's like the only Portal card I care about that hasn't already been reprinted.
Mentor of the Meek used to be in my cube, but I think Monastery Mentor replaced him and now he's in a Commander deck somewhere. I can see bringing him back in a later update alongside Imperial Recruiter.
FWIW my first Standard deck ever was something like 4-of each of the following:
+ Random chaff. And since then I don't much care for Raid Bombardment.
That was the season where Vampires, Pyromancer Ascension and Devastating Force were the big players, followed by Turbo Emrakul and Mythic Conscription. FNM (and I) sucked.
Mentor of the Meek used to be in my cube, but I think Monastery Mentor replaced him and now he's in a Commander deck somewhere. I can see bringing him back in a later update alongside Imperial Recruiter.
FWIW my first Standard deck ever was something like 4-of each of the following:
+ Random chaff. And since then I don't much care for Raid Bombardment.
That was the season where Vampires, Pyromancer Ascension and Devastating Force were the big players, followed by Turbo Emrakul and Mythic Conscription. FNM (and I) sucked.
I already have plans for if (when) I don't Day 2, but I'll probably be wondering around the Excel for a while if I scrub out early on Day 1.
This is the worst spoilers thread.
Chris Taylor
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I think if I cut stoneforge mystic, topan freeblade is the better card, and that disappoints me.
I like renown, but I hate that I don't like any of the cards they gave me. I might follow FSR and add a custom Undercity Troll, and I've got a renown 1 suntail hawk who has been nice so far, but other than that I dunno
I like renown, but I hate that I don't like any of the cards they gave me. I might follow FSR and add a custom Undercity Troll, and I've got a renown 1 suntail hawk who has been nice so far, but other than that I dunno
The 1/1 renown guys are pretty good (goblin glory chaser and honored hierarch), but my meta is a little slower so YMMV.
I really want to like honored hierarch but everybody else here has said it's terrible. Sell me on it!
Honored Hierarch is a beater first and foremost. The mana ability is secondary. 2/2 vigilance for one is great. Of course you need to connect once with it to get that, but run it in an RG deck and you can do that without much trouble (same deck that plays Stormblood Berserker). Later in the game when a 2/2 is useless, he gives you mana which is pretty cool and if you clear the board, he does both on the same turn.
Sometimes he never becomes renowned and is just this pointless 1/1. But he's a one drop. So what? Sometimes one drops suck. That's why they cost 1 mana.
Sometimes he never becomes renowned and is just this pointless 1/1. But he's a one drop. So what? Sometimes one drops suck. That's why they cost 1 mana.
Chris Taylor
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It reminds me of reckless waif: If it's ever good there probably wasn't much play to it
Grillo_Parlante
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Those cards though are fun in a format where people want to durdle. It introduces a cost/reward relationship for doing so.
FlowerSunRain
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I can confirm Honored Hierarch did work when he was drafted.
If you are looking for a card that gives above average upside if the opponent fails to interact (or they play a blocker and you commit removal to there 1/2 drop), its pretty good.
If you are looking for a card that gives above average upside if the opponent fails to interact (or they play a blocker and you commit removal to there 1/2 drop), its pretty good.
Chris Taylor
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I have been looking for more counter guys...
I dunno. I'll try it, but I worry about my assessment of the card being clouded by the better times. At least it isn't as swingy as waif
I dunno. I'll try it, but I worry about my assessment of the card being clouded by the better times. At least it isn't as swingy as waif
I haven't tried waif as I don't run DFC. But I don't think it's the same kind of swingy. Waif is all about your opponent. If he durdles, waif is good. If he doesn't, it sucks. You have a lot more control with hierarch. If my opponent durdles, it's easy-mode to renown-ville value town. If my opponent gets a blocker in play on T1, I still have options. I can use a removal spell to kill it and get hierarch through. Or I can choose to wait if I don't think it's worth it (and a lot of that has to do with how much value I think hierarch will bring me - as a beater or a mana elf).
I think he has a lot of play to him. He's never ridiculously good, but again he's a frickin' one drop. They can't all be gravecrawler.
I think he has a lot of play to him. He's never ridiculously good, but again he's a frickin' one drop. They can't all be gravecrawler.
CML
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I don't like Renown guys because they're usually dead unless you play them on curve. You need to ensure that they can actually get a hit in and that's hard unless you're playing against some durdly deck or give them evasion somehow. If your opponent drops a blocker, hell even something like an Augur of Bolas T2, it'll shut down the majority of them. The only one that I've liked enough to include in my cube is Scab-Clan Berserker, and that's due to it having haste and being live every time. I don't like cards that just become shit in all but the most favorable of situations. I wish there were more evasive renown guys because it was a pretty cool limited mechanic.
So far Acolyte of the Inferno has been pretty awesome; he's even great at helping to break open boards, since he demands a big blocker to do more than chump, which can help a second guy slip by. I'm kinda testing Hierarch already; he's in our try-it pile, which is a tiny, post-draft pool drafters can pick a card out of to test in their deck after the draft to see if we like it for later cube inclusion.
You guys have convinced me - he wasn't on my radar at all, but I'm going to give Honored Hierarch a whirl, too. I'm mostly convinced by the fact that Stromkirk Noble is boss, and renown isn't too different from his mechanic, other than having a lower ceiling. I know green isn't red, and isn't full of one-drop beaters, but Experiment One has been great, and more aggressive guys wouldn't hurt.
Also, Steward of Valeron is sweet, and is way cheaper than !
Also, Steward of Valeron is sweet, and
is way cheaper than !I feel like that guy is just Hearthfire Hobgoblin but worse with pumps
Chris Taylor
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And 3x as easy to cast, that ain't nothin
One of these cards has artwork that makes me want to vomit. I don't run ugly cards.
Yeah gimme a swole acolyte over an ugly preschooler anyday