Card/Deck Single Card Spotlight
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Onderzeeboot
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I ran it for a long while, and at my power level it certainly was. Great card. I switched it out because I needed more instants and sorceries in blue at the time. It's looking like that theme will disappear from my new cube (no more Rise from the Tides, the sacrifices you make, am I right? 
), so I might just put it back in. I really like Lay Claim!
), so I might just put it back in. I really like Lay Claim!
lay claim good legacys allure trash threads of disloyalty perfect control magic a LITTLE too cheap. I've never tried Dream Leash but it looks interesting
Chris Taylor
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Decent if you have a Ux Discard theme with a controllish bent, though I still prefer Lay Claim for this purpose.
It isn't against aggro but it is against midrange. The cycling is for matchups where 7 Mana is too much.
This card has broken pauper (in a good-ish way).
It has allowed 3 colour decks to actually stand a chance in the format now.
I am quite a big fan of the astrolabe, and I believe that wizards wouldn't be able to print this at
If you allow snow-basics from your land box, wouldn't this just cost
I don't know why you would need to errata it. Plus it is another card that works well with one of my favourite white creatures:
Also, if anyone hasn't seen Dom's post on introducing Snow Artifact aggro into your cube, you should, as it is a great read and makes you want to pick up some snow-lands next time you get the chance to give it a spin.
EDIT:
Heck, people run Chromatic Sphere/Chromatic Star in their lists as decent one-shot fixing. This would be the same as those but sticks around. That is obscenely efficient fixing.
Yeah I could just say "all basics are snow if you want" and be done with it, but should there be a cost to being able to play with this card? In MH draft you have to spend picks on snow lands to be able to cast the undercosted stuff, but I would just be giving it away for free. I don't really want to have to put snow basics in, especially as Astrolabe is currently the only snow card I want to run. Eh, I might just test it and see how it goes.
I was playing with it in pauper all weekend at GP Birmingham last week, that's what got me thinking about it in cube.
to be totally boring and normal i think the effect should cost 5-5.5 mana, and the thing that intrigues me about Dream Leash is that it has an any-permanent clause and is therefore splash damage against walker proliferation. i would rather cube Leash and would rather draft Mind Control/Persuasion so I think setting up some kind of situation where you have to let them get a swing in before you can steal the fatty / a Pod / Mystic Forge / etc activation, or play tappers, and be foiled by vigilance in exactly the way The Deck best abused Serra Angel, is interesting. there's probably no safe <6 mana cost you can put on a control magic imo, it's always going to be a backbreaking effect
That's ultimately the problem with control magic effects. 4-5 mana is too cheap of a cost to steal something, 6+ mana is usually too late in the game to be really impactful. There's no good middle ground cost wise...
...hence why I Lay Claim. The cycling fixes the issue of having a dead card in hand for most of the game. When it's drawn late, you get a Control Magic, otherwise, you get a new card.
This is a pretty bad card, isn't it?
Onderzeeboot
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This is a pretty bad card, isn't it?
What? No! Teshar is awesome! It basically has the flagbearer ability, because if you don't, it'll keep recurring stuff.
This is a pretty bad card, isn't it?
The body isn't good, but I think this card is more of a combo-engine enabler than a generic value creature. You can get a lot of value out of this guy if you build your deck around him.
It depends on your historic spell count, obviously. If you play a lot of Zurgo Bellstriker, Chromatic Star and other cheap legendaries/artifacts, Tesha becomes a value powerhouse quickly. The same is true for Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain which I spotted in another actively discussed thread right before this one.
Love these kinds of effects on sometimes relevant bodies.
Love these kinds of effects on sometimes relevant bodies.
It depends on your historic spell count, obviously. If you play a lot of Zurgo Bellstriker, Chromatic Star and other cheap legendaries/artifacts, Tesha becomes a value powerhouse quickly. The same is true for Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain which I spotted in another actively discussed thread right before this one.
Love these kinds of effects on sometimes relevant bodies.
Zurgo Bellstriker is actually kind of sweet. I completely forgot this card existed.
Onderzeeboot
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Oh shit, I need to put Zurgo in my new cube stat. That's a sweet interaction
Oh shit, I need to put Zurgo in my new cube stat. That's a sweet interaction
NEW cube? You devil.
Modern has a RW legends deck that revolves around Mox Amber that you could check out. It's very aggro.
Onderzeeboot
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Only if you feel monored aggro needs a big boost. It's a huge first pick for the archetype.
I agree with Onderz. I cut vortex from my cube because I didn't think aggro needed the extra boost. It is a card that I might bring back in the future, though.
I dislike Vortex because it punishes slower decks and leads to these situations where you'll lose simply because you cannot deal with it.
However, that's also part of the appeal. If you want to force decks to put bodies on the ground and win, it's a way of doing it.
However, that's also part of the appeal. If you want to force decks to put bodies on the ground and win, it's a way of doing it.
Is there any reason to run this?
I do not have a life gain theme in my cube.
Not a fan of Vortex at all. If your aggro section really needs that big of a boost, I'd look into reforming the archetype as a whole and really see what isn't working. I just don't think this card is a good solution to any problem being so narrow and powerful in only one particular deck (Mono-red Aggro).
Onderzeeboot
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I will say that it did lead to one of the funniest moments in any of my cube drafts (I did run the card in my first cube), where one of my players yelled "I hate Sulfuric Vortex, it's so dumb, please cut it from your cube!", as he was facing one of those mono red aggro decks, then yelled "I changed my mind, I love Sulfuric Vortex!" in the next game, when said mono red player died to their own Vortex
I will say that it did lead to one of the funniest moments in any of my cube drafts (I did run the card in my first cube), where one of my players yelled "I hate Sulfuric Vortex, it's so dumb, please cut it from your cube!", as he was facing one of those mono red aggro decks, then yelled "I changed my mind, I love Sulfuric Vortex!" in the next game, when said mono red player died to their own Vortex
So you’re telling me to put in
Gotcha!