General Fight Club

[Aoret]

Secondly, I'm a huge fan of Dark Confidant in my cube, and I can't imagine having access to a second one wouldn't be crazy powerful.

In my experience this almost never happens. Could be a quirk of my playgroup, but black is one of the most hotly contested colors (probably because people understand it really well over here). Getting into confidant wars against the person who drafted the other one is always fun. Who can confidant better than the other guy? I just drew off of mine... wanna trade confidants?

edit: and yeah, when somebody does get two, it is kinda gross. But at that point I'm gonna just build the ultralow curve confidant sac/burn deck. This feels to me kinda like the rare draft that somebody manages to pull some gross five color deck together after getting lucky with fixing picks. It's like a neat thing that happens very rarely.

 

[vennythekid]

Hm. I might swap Arena -> Second Bob and see how it plays. Thinking of all these changes I want to make has made me realize I haven't drafted Cube in almost a month!

 

[ahadabans]

What about shit bob and shittier bob? If you are worried about power level but want more of this effect, you can just add those or make a swap too. Another option.

 

[Mondschwein]

I actually added shit bob. he's a human in the right colour, after all.
Just saw he's a Wizard, too, so I guess I should get my hands on Snapcaster Mage and Riptide Laboratory. EDIT: and maybe Vendilion Clique? Another card of which I'm not sure if it might be too strong. I really have to post my cube list tomorrow so you people could help me evaluate.

 

[RavebornMuse]

Posting your list would be a huge help in determining appropriate includes Make a thread in the cube list section and include direct questions about things you want addressed, and I'm sure you'll find the community is generally happy to jump in and help unless your project is out of their purview (i.e, I never comment on large lists/limited-style lists because my eval skills aren't useful there).

I love Blood Scrivener and he's high on my reinclude list; I think he's better than Pain Seer personally but that depends largely on how you play them and how aggressively you're willing to discard/dump your hand to get extra value off of Blood Scrivener. He's also a zombie and a wizard, the former mattering much more often than the latter.

 

[Onderzeeboot]

Priest of the Blood Rite was pretty lackluster in testing. Basically they remove the demon and ignore your 2/2. It is nifty in Birthing Pod decks. Bloodgift Demon was better, because it acts as both a finisher and a source of card advantage, and bounce doesn't screw you over hard.

Edit: Vendilion Clique is one of the best cards ever printed, it sits at a good power level, but the decisions are so dense with this card. When to play it, who to target, what card to take, whether to take a card at all, use it on offense or as a surprise blocker. I can't see anyone ending up being disappointed with this card. It is never leaving my cube.

Edit2: I cut Confidant after my current cube doesn't really offer a low mana curve for black-based decks.

 

[Chris Taylor]

I actually added shit bob. he's a human in the right colour, after all.
Just saw he's a Wizard, too, so I guess I should get my hands on Snapcaster Mage and Riptide Laboratory. EDIT: and maybe Vendilion Clique? Another card of which I'm not sure if it might be too strong. I really have to post my cube list tomorrow so you people could help me evaluate.

I will say that regardless of the power level of your list, clique is a blast to play with and against and is one of the best designed magic cards ever convieved.

 

[Chriskool]

I actually added shit bob. he's a human in the right colour, after all.
Just saw he's a Wizard, too, so I guess I should get my hands on Snapcaster Mage and Riptide Laboratory. EDIT: and maybe Vendilion Clique? Another card of which I'm not sure if it might be too strong. I really have to post my cube list tomorrow so you people could help me evaluate.

I really want to see Pain Seer in the same limited format as Lavamancer's Skill.

 

[Rasmus Källqvist]

wth doesn't that card just rapid fire your opponents entire board if its a wizard? edit: no hey no! That's no untap symbol

 

[Chris Taylor]

wth doesn't that card just rapid fire your opponents entire board if its a wizard? edit: no hey no! That's no untap symbol

Even then, you need a tap ability. Since untap is the cost, you can't just rapid fire the ability

 

[Rasmus Källqvist]

Even then, you need a tap ability. Since untap is the cost, you can't just rapid fire the ability

I thought he said it had a tap: ping , if you're a wizard -> untap: ping harder. But that would've been stupid, so.

 

[sigh]

v.

 

[RavebornMuse]

Springleaf Drum can't be blown out in response to the equip cost but I mean
like
why tho?

 

[sigh]

Well, if you scroll just a feeeew posts up, maybe you'll see the inspiration...

 

[RavebornMuse]

Well, if you scroll just a feeeew posts up, maybe you'll see the inspiration...

If you're looking for niche unplayables to enable Crappy Confidant here's one that doesn't even have to be in your deck

 

[sigh]

Not sure why either of those would count as unplayable, especially not taking power level of the environment into account. (I'm more of a fan of the drum, personally).
Goes really well with stuff like Whirler Rogue and pia and kiran nalaar, "crappy" confidant, and defensive stuffs like wall of omens, wall of roots, wall of blossoms etc.

If I was into running conspiracies I like that one a lot! Not into running conspiracies tho.

While I'm on a synergy roll:
v.

 

[Onderzeeboot]

While I'm on a synergy roll:
v.

Well, that is one that depends entirely on your cube? Both are pretty low powered, but I think the Bola is a bit better at controlling combat? Especially since you can reequip repeatedly to force an attacker through.

 

[Grillo_Parlante]

Not sure why either of those would count as unplayable, especially not taking power level of the environment into account. (I'm more of a fan of the drum, personally).
Goes really well with stuff like Whirler Rogue and pia and kiran nalaar, "crappy" confidant, and defensive stuffs like wall of omens, wall of roots, wall of blossoms etc.

If I was into running conspiracies I like that one a lot! Not into running conspiracies tho.

While I'm on a synergy roll:
v.

My vote would be for viridian longbow, based on the pauper metric.

Bola sees 0 play, while longbow is a weapon of mass destruction in certain decks.

 

[Ferritovore]

Hm, might you want Longbow more on things that have deatchtouch, Sengir, Stromkirk triggers and the like? Could bolas be better for getting your Inspired on? What does longbow get equipped to in pauper?

 

[Grillo_Parlante]

What does longbow get equipped to in pauper?

The deck is also capable of producing huge amounts of mana, with priest of titania, and can afford to just equip pass it down a line of elves, wreaking havoc.

Edit: In cube there are a lot of cards it combos with too: death touch creatures, hypnotic specter, ninjas. You can also grab it with trinket mage.

 

[GiftsForgiven]

Here's a pair of cards that have a very similar effect:

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Which one wins out? A sweet ETB and mono-color, or a lower mana cost?​

p.s sorry if this has already been done, I haven't been able to go through the whole thread.​

 

[safra]

If the effect is valuable in your environment I'd find room for both.

 

[Dom Harvey]

Discard is already sparse enough in Cube that there's no need to punish it; if the discard you run is that oppressive, I'd prefer to cut it

(C. Wilt-Leaf Liege)

 

[whydirt]

Yeah it might help us if you talk about why you want one or both of them in the first place.

 

[Ferritovore]

Baloth could go in a smallpox deck, but it could just as easily be used to make the smallpox caster feel silly.