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  1. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    With the amount of control we have over our formats, its often times easier to just change the rules of the draft, rather than putting the format under a microscope, even though that thought exercise is often times beneficial regardless of if we ultimately go with the invasive solution or not...
  2. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    If you were forbidden from using invasive solutions, how would you solve this problem for a format?
  3. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    fwiw it worries me a little bit, given out a free triland for certain multi-color picks, as the player can disengage a bit from the drafting process they've chosen to go down. I'm not a big fan of player disengagement, especially when its connected to an otherwise interesting choice they opted...
  4. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

  5. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    It's confusing to me as well. If people were complaining about there being too many fixing lands in a draft, than surely they don't need to have a free fixing land given to them. I also want to plant a flag here and say that the term "parasitism of lands" doesn't feel correct. I agree, that...
  6. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    I'm not sure how much of this discussion is even so much that there is too much fixing, as it is general dissatisfaction with shock lands, or the fetch->shock arrangement (which is fine, I like discussions about alternate formats built around synergistic mana bases). There seems to be a sort...
  7. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    I kind of would like it to feel more like modern, if we're going down that line, and it never quite achieved that. Once you get your format to the point where everyone is effectively starting at circa 15 life, its a huge boost to aggressive strategies. That was kind of the idea behind that...
  8. Grillo_Parlante

    General Too Many Lands

    To re-frame this somewhat. The fetch-shock framework is kind of boring and very good stuffy. There are some interesting micro-interactions, but not enough to really warp a format around, and policing tech is hard to come by. For the most part they are just there to ensure smooth mana...
  9. Grillo_Parlante

    Card/Deck Iconic limited curve toppers

    Couple others that come to mind Whirling Dervish orcish lumberjack Lhurgoyf Ihsan's Shade Wildfire Emissary Frenetic efreet rainbow efreet ophidian Than once we're in visions, we get our first true ETB creatures: Nekrataal man-o'-war Which were even better than they are now...
  10. Grillo_Parlante

    Card/Deck Iconic limited curve toppers

    The list is from Mark Justice, who was a big name player back than, and he states that those are creatures he sees most commonly at advanced rounds of tournaments, though they are not necessarily the creatures he personally likes the most. Orgg is described as a creature that found a home when...
  11. Grillo_Parlante

    Card/Deck Iconic limited curve toppers

    Here is from a top 10 list of best creatures in the game from 1996 I still have 1. Serra Angel 2. Juzam Djinn 3. Birds of Paradise 4. Juggernaut 5. Erhnam Djinn 6. Mahamoti Djinn 7. Hypnotic Specter 8. Sol'Kanar the Swamp King 9. Savannah Lions 10. Orgg A few other notables from the time...
  12. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    The way you handle that is you can develop a settled meaning, and than you might provide different examples for guidance as to what constitutes or doesn't constitute the term. Maybe a specific odd example comes up, and than their might have to be a discussion about that example, with the most...
  13. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    No semantics is important. Most arguments develop out of semantic differences, and its usually better to address them, rather than plowing forward. I feel that was the mistake I made with my disagreement with Onderzeeboot about cloudblazer. I think we weren't in agreement about the meaning of a...
  14. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    Yeah, I almost wish I had gone back and kicked the cloudblazer dead horse back to life :D To be clear, I'm not strictly using the MTGS definition of tempo. My definition is closer to rate of spell castings, or spell velocity, than specific threats on the board, and strategies based around the...
  15. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    Since I'm having another epiphany here, real quick: Classic wrath decks ran the card not to lose. They would recoup their lost tempo from spending turns 1-3 durdling, but after that they weren't interested at all in getting ahead on an opponent (which WOG is not good at doing anyways). All...
  16. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    I think the misunderstanding is that in the classic WOG scenario, the spell recoups tempo. I don't consider a card that is only recouping tempo that you already hemorrhaged, to be generating tempo over your opponent. Thats what a tempo card or strategy is classically supposed to do...
  17. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    I can agree with you that WOG helps you recoup tempo, but its mana cost puts such a limit on what else you can commonly do with your turn, that its hard to see how you can argue that it helps put you ahead on tempo. That a developed mana base allows you to more easily sequence out multiple...
  18. Grillo_Parlante

    Retro Combo Cube

    Its important to remember that post-Lorwyn design is a school of thought, and it isn't exclusively limited to specific series of card printings. You can make an old-boarder list, max the number of ETB creatures in it (e.g. flametongue kavu) while curating spell power (probably on the dubious...
  19. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    I'm not saying Wog is a bad card. I'm saying it costs 4 mana. If we're in constructed and you want a wrath that can add both tempo and CA, I would suggest: terminus So cheap you can sequence out a bunch of follow-up spells to capitalize on your CA you just made, rather than hoping the...
  20. Grillo_Parlante

    Sets [KLD] Kaladesh Spoilers Thread

    Modern has no true control deck atm thats competitive. Ponder that. In this current standard, prior to rotation, the competitive decks that matter are all ETB/planeswalker based, with bant company being the most dominant deck. WOG generally requires you cede your entire turn to cast a...
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