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WOG and Moat are pure card advantage engines (the abyss is more complicated, but closer to a planeswalker once you break symmetry). They were always costed so high, that you couldn't follow them up with an additional casting on that turn, e.g. a creature that could impact the board. Those spells...

The old conundrum of magic the gathering was that you generally couldn't get both tempo and card advantage at the same time, so you would have to generally cater towards one school of magic or the other. Now, this isn't 100% (what is?); there were printings like ancestral recall that let you...

eh.... rally was an creature ETB deck that morphed into bant company, another creature ETB deck. The decks are mostly either ETB deck, or planewalker decks, or a mixture of the two. Though maybe things will get better now that they've introduced these energy counters as a mechanic. It...

Shifting the focus to creatures means you always have a present clock, warping the game around tempo generation. Thats ok, and I can see how it sells packs, but its a little simplistic.

I know, its so weird though that a R/G heartbeat of spring existed in the old frame. What was it designed for? With any of those effects, they are terrible until you add land untaps. Ideally you want to wait until the turn you plan to use all of that mana, drop the enchantment, hit your untap...

Elegant perfection.

Other random sweet cards that I want to run, but don't quite seem to fit. tempt with immortality strands of night pulsemage advocate decaying soil body snatcher dawn of the dead

Some random sweet ones; no idea how they fit in: overabundance powerstone minefield

To clarify the issue. When you aren't running fetch//shocks, and decks have to have strong guild identities, B/W can be a challenging guild to design for, if you're running cheap aggressive creatures in both black and white. Eventually, some player will first pick a champion of the parish, and...

Sadly, you can't cast wake eot :/ The problem with rally (at least if we are following the std. Deck) is that much of its power came from being an etb abuse tool. This format is trying to avoid spell effects on its creatures, and Probably dosen't have the density for rally to justify itself...

I'm kind of looking for a more gentle living death varient: something spicy and explosive. I suppose its possible that might be a fools errand. Thd b/w deck is kind of hard to design, because I need an aggro deck that dosen't involve red. I also kind of want to shift some of the focus away...

Thank you sir, and I thought wake was end of your next end step. I guess than immortal servitude and return to the ranks?

I was looking for them to create a big temporary board state later in the game, independent of ETBs or sac effects. Create 10+ power out of nowhere and so forth.

The nicest thing about scrapheap is that it doesn't require such a heavy black commitment. Thats actually unique for cards that occupy that slot on the curve bloodghast despoiler of souls nether traitor relentless dead

I would probably cut thug, but thats only because that card has always been somewhat inconsistent for me. Sometimes the ability to recur creatures and dredge will lead to some cool interactions, but than you get into these awkward game states where its inability to send itself to the yard slows...

Are these the formats the best smallpox has ever been // its way too good? smallpox

Thank you, I was getting frustrated there, especially after I had previously made this post, and this post, about where I think value cards have a place in cube (which was also reflected by my original statement). Mulldrifter is consistent with that philosophy: though, I'm actually fairly tepid...

Which if we're being intellectually honest, would end the discussion right there. Evoke has synergy with sac outlets, sac triggers, reanimation, blink, death triggers, undying evil, and adds a body to the yard for cards that care about raw graveyard count, or card type in yard. This is in...

Which he's already been told twice. :rolleyes: Original post to now. Thats because you don't want to.

I've been burned by that card so badly in the past, but it actually probably is perfect here isn't it?