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night's whisper vs. read the bones Which one? Both? Neither?

Green card-draw and card selection, using enchantments and graveyard? I was thinking something like this, as a start: eternal witness regrowth elvish visionary wall of blossoms commune with the gods satyr wayfinder life from the loam mulch eidolon of blossoms argothian enchantress sylvan...

Elbrus totally costs like twelve million mana to cast so it's out of the picture if we're realistic, yeah. Probably better to just good equipment, but I'm unsure if it's still worth it? Probably depends on the format, but I think some other people said it just wasnt worth to run it without the...

That's the reason! Besides, it's a human :p

Is it necessarily a constructed card though?

Yeah +1 powermatrix! It feels like a much bigger reward when you play it, but demonmail works if you want another sac-outlet?

elbrus, stoneforge mystic tinker I know, I know, we've been through stoneforge mystic. Still, is this worth a shot? I'm actively looking for something "unfair", but maybe its either a do-nothing or just oppressive? Tinker is there as another "unfair" card that would be fun to try with less...

You could probably use things like the charm cube for reference on 3-color themes. Bant Flicker maybe?

I'm totally down with running vapors! I think I'll try out some tweaks with the gold section so it advertises the color pair themes more, and add some more dedicated control cards and see how it goes. If control doesn't get removal not ever I'll have to look pretty deep into it, but it should be...

temple of enlightenment With rotation on these not a terrible long time away, are they still up for considerations as inclusions? Running one Kahn-Land and one Temple for each color pair? I remember you speaking fondly of them when you started sketching up ideas for how the cube mana base...

I guess. I think the idea was to utilize the big artifacts and cards like nicol bolas to bleed the tinker-stuff out a litte bit. Might just be pretty bad, running 3 cards or 3 + a removal card is probably just better.

Sorin, solemn visitor This card was mentioned in the skype chat, and I really like that as well, since it sort of glues together the BW lifegain midrange deck with all kinds of assorted aggro. I could even see a naya zoo deck splash black for it, like, its really great. Less narrow than Obzedat...

Man, now I feel superbad for not drafting as much Khans as I shouldve. Maybe I should buy a box and just go draft some khans with friends?

I like that thinking. Coinsmith is an enchantment, which is something I'd like to bump up so I can run a subtheme of enchantments with rector, eidolon, pilgrim and enchantress. Blind Hunter is actually in a nice slot between pridemate and archangel of thune. obzedat, blind hunter underworld...

So you would see the pair as midrange and control by this roshambo model, rather than aggro & control? It sounds true, like, I think I've actually already grid drafted a WB lifefocused midrange deck so :p Might be able to run Obzedat v2, as a way to make people wanna utilise his lifegain in both...

So I got a pen and notepad out and started going through what piece of roshambo the colors should focus on, and how the color pairs could look, to help me get more of an idea of what directions I wanted to go. This is not breaking any new grounds, but it's a nice basis for me when choosing cards...

keranos, god of storms How oppressive is this guy? I could imagine he's alright by the fact that he's online by turn 6 the earliest, maybe turn 5 off a rock, and you could just get run over before that? Seems like a good incentive to draft the bigger UR/x deck

To be honest, both arts are pretty goofy. Ugin also has tiny arms?

Weren't you guys super excited just like a week ago?

How willing are you to go into the combo territories with the cards like living death? I get the feeling that all this card draw will help people that rely on one narrow card, since they'll be churning through their decks so fast. The same goes for cards like nemesis of mortals as well (which I...