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Chris Taylor

Chris Taylor

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If it's g for a 0/0, the net result is ivy elemental with trample and the trigger.
That doesn't sound great? My cube is certainly fast enough (and there's no ramp deck) that the X >=5 text literally never comes up, so my gut is probably test it as 1G 2/2 at base (like you thought it was originally) and adjust down from there

It's not like it has an etb like mawloc, it's probably fine.
 
Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

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I’ld like to add a mono blue and a mono red ravenous creature to the cube as well, since Temur has a ramp theme. I have some thoughts for the red one, but the blue one I’m not really… I’ve got some details down, but I’m looking for an appropriate rider. Ive got a great image of a goose flying at the “camera”, card title is going to be Gluttonous Goose, and obviously it has flying.

Blue has discard matters, ninja’s and self-mill as themes. I think I have the first one covered by other cards, and as a flyer it naturally synergizes with ninja’s, so I think I want some self-mill support in this spot. I’ve got The Goose Mother as a benchmark that I don’t want to exceed, so I was thinking a {1}{U}{X} flying with ravenous as the baseline. Any ideas?

Edit: Maybe something like "When Gluttonous Goose enters the battlefield, mill four cards, then shuffle up to X target cards from your graveyard into your library."? Or "When Gluttonous Goose enters the battlefield, scry X, then mill four cards."?

Edit 2: Some ideas for the red ravenous creature...

NAME {X}{X}{R}
Creature - TYPE
Ravenous
Menace
When NAME enters the battlefield, up to X target creatures can't block this turn. Goad those creatures. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
2/1

NAME {X}{1}{R}
Creature - TYPE
Ravenous
Menace
When NAME enters the battlefield, goad up to X target creatures. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
2/1

NAME {X}{1}{R}
Creature - TYPE
Ravenous
Menace
Remove a +1/+1 counter from NAME: Add {R}.
2/1
 
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Rusje

Rusje

Blue screams counter/control:
X1u
Put x +1/+1 counters on ~.
Ravenous
What you prefer
Either flash and counter target spell with mana cost less than or equal to x/2 rounded up
Or

Control magic target creature with mana cost less than or equal to x/2 rounded down.

1/1 flying
 
Chris Taylor

Chris Taylor

Contributor
Scry X then mill 4 seems so weird to me, like you wanted surveil but nobody ever ended up putting anything but bloodghast in their graveyard and you had to force their hand.
I don't know if you're saving your players from themselves or your players are saving you from your worst habits in this hypothetical, but either way I think it needs changing.

Rusje's onto something, I think a ravenous spellstutter sprite variant or man-'o-war would be great candidates.
 
Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

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gaytransmulldrifter said:
I think scry+ravenous may also confuse players about when they're supposed to draw the card.
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Aw shit. That’s a good point. I mean, you should be able to choose, right? Both happen on etb, and if you have two triggers at the same time that you both control, you get to choose in which order to apply them.

That said, maybe I was a bit too much in love with the "if X = 5 you get to look at the top 5 cards of your deck and choose which one you want to draw!" scenario. I was like, yeah, scry 2, mill 4 looks weird, but you can choose to put a card on the bottom if you don't want to mill it, or if you're looking to mill specific cards that aren't in the top X.

Rusje said:
Blue screams counter/control:
X1u
Put x +1/+1 counters on ~.
Ravenous
What you prefer
Either flash and counter target spell with mana cost less than or equal to x/2 rounded up
Or

Control magic target creature with mana cost less than or equal to x/2 rounded down.

1/1 flying
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I like these suggestions in a vacuum, but like I said, I’m looking for a card that supports the selfmill archetype.
 
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Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

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Something something flash, flying, Spellstutter but for delirium, mill X. No time to figure out if it fits currently, but putting it down here to check later :)
 
Chris Taylor

Chris Taylor

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Possible I'm ant fucking here, but is it Flash Ravenous Flying?
My gut would be Flying, Flash then Ravenous on a different line but I know usually disagree with how wotc usually does thing.
 
Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

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Chris Taylor said:
Possible I'm ant fucking here, but is it Flash Ravenous Flying?
My gut would be Flying, Flash then Ravenous on a different line but I know usually disagree with how wotc usually does thing.
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I actually did my homework this time ;)



Edit: There’s actually a good reason for this order. Flash affects the casting of the spell, ravenous applies on entering the battlefield, and flying is a continuous effect while on the battlefield.
 
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Phone

Onderzeeboot said:
Aw shit. That’s a good point. I mean, you should be able to choose, right? Both happen on etb, and if you have two triggers at the same time that you both control, you get to choose in which order to apply them.

That said, maybe I was a bit too much in love with the "if X = 5 you get to look at the top 5 cards of your deck and choose which one you want to draw!" scenario. I was like, yeah, scry 2, mill 4 looks weird, but you can choose to put a card on the bottom if you don't want to mill it, or if you're looking to mill specific cards that aren't in the top X.


I like these suggestions in a vacuum, but like I said, I’m looking for a card that supports the selfmill archetype.
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It sounds like this would work: if X = 5 then look at the top 5. Then put one in your hand and the rest in your graveyard.

Edit: Forgot that Ravenous triggers a draw. So it may need to worded differently but that's the general idea.
 
gaytransmulldrifter

gaytransmulldrifter

Onderzeeboot said:
Aw shit. That’s a good point. I mean, you should be able to choose, right? Both happen on etb, and if you have two triggers at the same time that you both control, you get to choose in which order to apply them.
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Yeah, I think most folks here probably would intuitively get this since we're all cube designers and think about this stuff all the time, but your average player might not pick up on it, especially since the "draw a card" is listed before the scry/mill effect, and folks are often used to doing the things on a card in the order they're listed.

I think this really depends on how experienced your playgroup is though, if you mostly play with very enfranchised players then it's probably not a huge issue.
 
Velrun

Velrun

Just write Flyshnous. People will know what it means.

Hey Onde, what program are you using to create AI art? I would like to begin learning. Thank you <3
 
Onderzeeboot

Onderzeeboot

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Velrun said:
Just write Flyshnous. People will know what it means.

Hey Onde, what program are you using to create AI art? I would like to begin learning. Thank you <3
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I’ve got a MidJourney subscription running. Getting good art requires a bit op patience, and a lot of prompts that would work flawlessly for humans give hilarious/disastrous results for the AI. Stuff like “A lion chasing a sheep” might turn into a picture of a lion-sheep hybrid, for example. It’s also hard to get it to do specific details or scenes. You see the art here that worked, but I could show you a multitude of prompts that didn’t deliver XD

Edit: Here's a thread with a bunch of failed attempts :) https://riptidelab.com/forum/threads/ai-y-u-b-like-this.3754/#post-127046
 
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