Sets [FDN] Foundations (a new Core Set)

I have to say, "When X enters and whenever it attacks" sounds way better than "Whenever X enters or attacks". Because the creature enters the battlefield only once, so it always felt strange to read "Whenever enters" as the beginning of the sentence

I still prefer "enters the battlefield" though. So my perfect sentence would be "When X enters the battlefield and whenever it attacks". And this will not ever be printed on any card
 

Chris Taylor

Contributor
Between alesha and kiora, funny we got two semi vulnerable 3 drops that do something really good when they attack

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This is a really neat side-grade on maul of the skyclaves. It's mostly better, trading 2 toughness and first strike for flash and the combat trick mode, and a slightly better equip cost.

I'm mostly in favor because when the first strike does come up, it's kinda lame, so why not make a change that increases flexibility and eliminates a 1/50 games feelbad
 

This card seems pretty cool. While I wish it was a 2/2 instead of a 1/3, I think this card has potential legs! I love cool Prowess payoffs, and this one is in a color that needs it with cool flavor and an awesome full-art version by Zoltan Boros!
 
Between alesha and kiora, funny we got two semi vulnerable 3 drops that do something really good when they attack
While you're not wrong, new Alesha has Raid, so she does something really good when any of your creatures attack (so you trade bears, cast Alesha, and then immediately get your bear back)

also I did not expect a Blasphemous Act callback but:
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While you're not wrong, new Alesha has Raid, so she does something really good when any of your creatures attack (so you trade bears, cast Alesha, and then immediately get your bear back)

also I did not expect a Blasphemous Act callback but:
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I hate how the fantastic art is ruined by yet another attempt at funny flavour text.

It's hard not to notice that Magic's flavour text has been increasingly limited to two flavours: Cool "I'm better than you" lines and Marvel-like humour.

This card seems pretty cool. While I wish it was a 2/2 instead of a 1/3, I think this card has potential legs! I love cool Prowess payoffs, and this one is in a color that needs it with cool flavor and an awesome full-art version by Zoltan Boros!
I like this card as a design, sadly it's too weak for my power level.
 

This card seems pretty cool. While I wish it was a 2/2 instead of a 1/3, I think this card has potential legs! I love cool Prowess payoffs, and this one is in a color that needs it with cool flavor and an awesome full-art version by Zoltan Boros!
Agreed, this one is cool. I actually like 1/3 as the stat line, because prowess matters more on a body like this. A 2/1 prowess creature doesn't benefit that much from a +1/+1 boost unless it's killing an x/3 in combat, and it's still probably dying in the process. But a 1/3 going to a 2/4 can kill a 3/2 with any trick, so it's more dangerous. I view this as a control or aggro-control card.

Anyway, people have an option between this and Kitsa, Otterball Elite now, so you can choose the power level if you like a 1/3 prowess 2 drop for blue.
 
By the way, I have no idea of where I would play it or how you are supposed to, but I love this:


Other than Stasis, how do you play with Howling Mine variants in cube?
 
It's hard not to notice that Magic's flavour text has been increasingly limited to two flavours: Cool "I'm better than you" lines and Marvel-like humour.

Wait, you cannot have watched very much Marvel.
What made you arrive at this conclusion?
 
By the way, I have no idea of where I would play it or how you are supposed to, but I love this:


Other than Stasis, how do you play with Howling Mine variants in cube?
Well, the classical Howling Mine archetype is turbofog, if you're into that. This card in particular I think you can reasonably play as a standalone if you want to punish greedy decks or have some funny wheel combos without being as backbreaking as Hullbreacher. Also costs one Workshop activation and works well in decks with more mana than cards. I'm sure you can find cubes where this card is reasonable, but actual Howling Mine is a very different card.
 
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What a solid common 2-drop. No sorcery speed only activation. And a nice old school artwork from one of my all time favorite artists Paolo Parente. Might need to find room for it
 

Chris Taylor

Contributor

This card seems pretty cool. While I wish it was a 2/2 instead of a 1/3, I think this card has potential legs! I love cool Prowess payoffs, and this one is in a color that needs it with cool flavor and an awesome full-art version by Zoltan Boros!
This thing being 1 counter per power is something a lot of people missed. Maybe you did too and it's better than you think.
At 2/2 you'd just get a drake every turn with basically no questions asked.
I'm not hugely in due to the bespoke token, but I imagine it plays really well and I could change my mind.

Also the borderless version in question:
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Someone on the cube talk discord described this as "the cover of a fantasy novel you'd find in a used book shop with 4 sequels that got cancelled on a cliffhanger" and I've never seen art described this way or so well XD

RE: the whole flavor text thing, fully agree. The whole marvel thing is called Bathos; when they undercut the drama of a scene by throwing in a joke when the audience should be marinating in a dramatic moment.
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Mostly I'm just frustrated they can't leave any stone unturned:
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Like look at this card. For those of you who don't know, here's a funny lil guy from Ice Age:
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The artist got the art description, but didn't know what a Lemure was, which is shades or spirits of the restless or malignant dead apparently, more of a spirit. He thought they meant Lemur, like up on Preposterous Proportions, and thought they were doing a little fantasy creature thing where they spell it funny, so he submitted this art.
The art team thought it was more funny than anything, so kept the art in. Full story more richly footnoted here, and the pedants among us even got their own justice when Dominaria Remastered came out:
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All this for some terrible card from ice age.

So we come to foundations, and hey why not make a Lemure/Lemur joke on the EDH sized overrun.

Why do you need to specify it's his last words?
Why is this fucker called URIAH THE SMUG? Do you think if there's some prick in town who's just condescending by nature all the time he gets it in official paperwork? Do other people in town call him that as a title, absent all the other ways he might be a dick? Like he's being smug at the beginning of the quote, you can tell, you don't need to explain that to us.

But no, someone might not get it. Better leave NOTHING to think about. Management has agreed some very stupid people might be reading this flavor text, and we had damn well better stop them from learning anything, better add in "-Uriah the Smug, last words"
 
I feel like the flavour text would have been way better if they left it at something like "Did you mean lemures?" and the same art. I don't really mind self-referential stuff like this in Magic but yeah this one was a miss for me.
 

Chris Taylor

Contributor
Okay, actually talking about cards this time:
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This is hilarious templating and the card's fine. I wouldn't fault anyone for running this

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This is a nice reward, a solid base case if you don't have a 4 power beater, and also a bespoke token so I'm sad.

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If this is ever cast in constructed, I assume your opponent dies on the spot as samwise gamgee makes a million food tokens or other such nonsense. In cube this can probably do that sometimes and be a sick value play some of the time, and it's not as useless in a midrange deck as Rally the Ancestors would be.

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We might have already talked about this but sweet jesus why. Okay sure, decent body + careful study, why does this give you 8/8s.
There's so much reward for the game state where you actually manage to get this fragile 3/2 into the red zone.

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Sure, we've managed to find a card that makes attacking with your creatures good when you have those in play and you cast your 6 drop.
6 counters to return this is probably closer to "sacrifice four creatures" than anything reasonable unless you're cubing this:
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This is super sweet. Reach is good, some removal insurance is good, splashable, etc.
I know some people here balk at any green creature with power > mana value but I promise this statline is okay, it dies to bolt.

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Do people keep cycling the shark typhoon you put in your cube, like some kind of good player? Well do I have the fix for you!

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This is probably solid, though I'm loathe to make my aggro decks sequencing more vulnerable than it already is.

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If you loved spider spawning but hated the bodies it made: we now have the technology!
 
It's hard not to notice that Magic's flavour text has been increasingly limited to two flavours: Cool "I'm better than you" lines and Marvel-like humour.
Agreed. What's wrong with putting some lore on the cards? I'm under the impression that adults are a big part of the demographic, so it doesn't seem necessary to market the flavor to a Nickelodeon audience.
 
RE: the whole flavor text thing, fully agree. The whole marvel thing is called Bathos; when they undercut the drama of a scene by throwing in a joke when the audience should be marinating in a dramatic moment.
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Wow, I have studied literature for years and I had never heard this word (that comes from Greek) used this way. It looks like that in Italian we don't use it this way, and that's a pity. But you never stop learning, and I love when I can learn important stuff also from a forum about a card game. So thank you Chris :)

But no, someone might not get it. Better leave NOTHING to think about. Management has agreed some very stupid people might be reading this flavor text, and we had damn well better stop them from learning anything, better add in "-Uriah the Smug, last words"

Yeah, I agree, lately it is often the case, people never leave anything to imagination anymore, and it is sad because it is also stifling creativity and research. Like, if the flavour text was something along the lines of "I think you mean lemures, not lemurs...", this probably would have made a lot of people inform theirselves about what a lemure is in mythology and so on. Instead they already explain everything on the card. Next reprint, they will write the full story "This is a reference to a card printed in the 1995 Magic expansion Ice Age etc etc"
 
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